In response to James comment
The Wikimedia movement which is a combination of the WMF, chapters and thorgs, along with the communities represent Wikipedia.
The Chapters dont represent Wikipedia we support the contributors to Wikipedia and the other projects as well as promote the reuse and sharing of content available through the movement as a whole... Our agreement is clear on that, we also dont have any editorial authority, specific influence over nor responsibility for content...
this may be less obvious for some non-english language communities where the line between the language version of Wikipedia and the Chapter is blurred, especially in the smaller languages where there isnt a great expanse of international speakers to draw upon as contributors.
On 6 February 2017 at 08:35, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
The second part of this IMO is not accurate "The Dutch chapter does not represent Wikipedia or any of the other projects. It cannot do this because the Wikimedia Foundation has this exclusive right."
The Wikimedia movement which is a combination of the WMF, chapters and thorgs, along with the communities represent Wikipedia. The WMF only exclusively represents the WMF.
James
On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 2:18 AM, Ting Chen wing.philopp@gmx.de wrote:
Hello Gerard,
I didn't say that a chapter represent a project or the Foundation. I said it is perceived as a representative of the movement.
For example, if the EU asks for opinion of the revision of the copy right law. The answers by the european chapters are perceived as the answer of this movement, it is not perceived as any casual organization. The media will at first contact the chapters of their region or country if there is anything to be commented about the movement.
As you said yourself. Chapters support the community, and from a very unique position that differs them from user groups, because there is only one chapter for the Netherlands, or Germany, etc. And this is the reason why there is a higher requirement of reports and activity for the
chapters.
Greetings
Ting
Am 05.02.2017 um 18:48 schrieb Gerard Meijssen:
Hoi, The Dutch chapter is well respected and it is why I can use it as an example. The Dutch chapter does not represent Wikipedia or any of the other projects. It cannot do this because the Wikimedia Foundation has this exclusive right.
So when a chapter is said to represent the Wikimedia movement and its projects in a country, it is important that this is in line with
reality.
The reality is that the Dutch chapter is in principle a society with members; it has as a mission to share the sum of all knowledge and in
its
activities it supports the Dutch Wikimedia community as much as it
can/is
allowed to as well.
When a chapter exclusively represents the WMF. Let there be trust and given the way things are it does not show when you analyse things. Thanks, GerardM
On 5 February 2017 at 11:05, Ting Chen wing.philopp@gmx.de wrote:
Hello Gerard,
the chapters and thematic organizations are entrusted with certain functions and authorities. For example a chapter enjoys regional (or country wide) exclusivity in their operating region. They are perceived in the public as if they are official representatives of our movement in that region. The same function fulfills the Thematic Organizations for their thematic area. This is why we lay a much higher standard of
requirements
for these affiliates. Some chapters do not request funds by the FDC. We also have user groups who request funds, and they need to provide the same reports as needed by the funds. For the AffCom money is not the topic here.
Take the example of chapters if a chapter is not working, there is no activity at all, it still blocks other affiliate grow up and take their place as long as they are there and occupies the regional exclusity.
This
is just one of the problematics here.
And the AffCom do also require the User Groups to report their
activity,
although in a very easy to do manner.
I hope this clarifies your concern.
Greetings
Ting
Am 05.02.2017 um 10:22 schrieb Gerard Meijssen:
Hoi,
I fail to see who you are targeting and on what basis. My impression
is
that it only has to do with money.. I understand this. For other parts like the language committee there are no reports except for the activity on its mailing list. I fail to see why it has to report to anyone. It is not the task the committee seeks and it does its activity on behalf of the Wikimedia board. Thanks, GerardM
On 5 February 2017 at 00:06, Maor Malul maor_x@zoho.com wrote:
Dear all,
Recognition as a Wikimedia affiliate - a chapter, thematic organization, or user group - is a privilege that allows an independent group to officially use the Wikimedia name to further the Wikimedia mission. While most Wikimedia affiliates adhere to the basic compliance standards
set
forth in their agreements with the Wikimedia Foundation, a protocol
has
been developed to address the exceptional cases when a Wikimedia affiliate does not meet basic compliance standards and their continued recognition as a Wikimedia affiliate presents a risk to the Wikimedia movement. This protocol is outlined at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wik i/Wikimedia_movement_affiliates/Protocol_for_noncompliant_ Wikimedia_movement_affiliates
In the past year, the Affiliations Committee - with support from Wikimedia Foundation staff - has made a concerted effort to address a handful
of
chapters with long-standing issues of non-compliance. As a result, in the coming days and months, a small number of chapters that have been unable to return to compliance through their efforts in the past year will not have their chapter agreements renewed. As a consequence, these
organizations
will no longer have the additional rights to use the Wikimedia trademarks, including the Wikimedia name, that had been granted under those agreements.
For a list of affiliates and their compliance status, please consult the reports page on Meta; there is also a page that lists formerly active affiliates. If you have questions about what this means for community members in the affected affiliates’ geographic area or language
scope,
we have put together a very basic FAQ, which may be found at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_movement_affiliate s/Affiliate_derecognition_FAQ
Regards, M.
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