On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Andrew Whitworth wknight8111@gmail.comwrote:
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Anthony wikimail@inbox.org wrote:
As Thomas said, it requires Internet access, which might not be
available.
I think it's a bit more than that, though. The credit should be part of
the
work itself, not external to the work. When you're talking about a
website,
it's hard to define where the work begins and where it ends, clearly a
work
can span multiple URLs, and it's essentially meaningless whether or not those URLs have different domain names (at least assuming they are both
kept
nearly 100% reliable). None of these three things are true with books, T-shirts, or movies (for a movie a URL would be especially obnoxious).
As a contributor to these 'ere projects myself, I personally would prefer the less reliable but more informative URL for attribution myself. That's a personal preference only, and I don't see any need to push that on others.
I understand that viewpoint and think it is reasonable. How about adding a checkbox to preferences, that says "allow attribution by URL"?
Our authors contributed to our projects with the expectation that
their content would be freely reusable. Requiring even 2 pages of attributions be included after every article inclusion is a non-free tax on content reuse, and a violation of our author's expectations. Demanding that authors be rigorously attributed despite having no expectations for it, while at the same time violating their expectations of free reuse doesn't quite seem to me to be a good course of action.
I think it's clear that at least some people expected to be attributed directly in any print edition encyclopedias made from Wikipedia. Do you deny that, or do you just think it doesn't matter?
I think reusers should determine what the best way is to give credit.
However, if they can't meet a minimal standard, then they ought to not
use
the work at all.
Letting reusers "determine what is the best way" is surely a pitfall. You're assuming that miraculously corporate interests are going to be preoccupied with providing proper attribution.
I qualified my statement with the fact that they do need to at least meet a minimal standard. That said, I believe that corporate interests *are* best served by providing proper attribution. There may be some short-term gains to be had by violating people's rights, but in the end doing so will kill the goose that lays the golden egg, so to speak. (They'll also be unable to distribute their content legally in most any jurisdiction in the world other than the United States.)