Interesting. I see that you opened the task for the user-right, but this is
a result of a decision to make a catch-all fix for several problems. I
think the capcha problem is extremely annoying and goes way beyond the
scope of the one-off edit-a-thon, so this specific issue should have its
own task number. "Tame admins" are rarely on tap so not a solution for the
user-right but does the throttle override work now? I can't see where that
fix is confirmed anywhere.
On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 2:54 PM, WereSpielChequers <
werespielchequers(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I'm tempted to point out that this mainly affects
new editors who cite
their edits, other new editors will get bitten in other ways. But the
internet is not the best venue for irony.
More practically, if you have a tame admin on tap then you can reduce this
and other problems at editathons by setting those new accounts as
"confirmed". And yes I know we also have a shortage of admins, and also
that it is likely that only a tiny proportion of the editors we lose
through this are at editathons.
Earlier this year as a result of the glam organisers event in Paris I made
a proposal at bugzilla for an event organisers useright. This would have
allowed us to circumvent this problem at those editathons that are targeted
at newbies, and it got widely endorsed by GLAM editors from several
languages. Sadly it got marked as resolved because there was something that
looked similar to developers, though not of course to potential users. If
anyone here knows how to bypass phabricator or how to mark a phabricator
request as unresolved and still much wanted, then the link is
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91928 alternatively perhaps we could
persuade the education community to endorse it, it should be just as useful
to them and they seem to have more clout with the WMF than the GLAM
community.
As for whether the capcha is useful in keeping out spammers, remember
there are two capcha steps, one when you open a new account and the other
when you use that to add links. Presumably any spam program that can pass
the first hurdle can pass the second. But for new good faith human editors
each capcha is a possible lost edit/editor. It would be good to test
dropping the capcha requirement for adding new links, alternatively perhaps
we could whitelist certain domains as likely to be reliable sources and
unlikely to be spam.
Regards
Jonathan
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