The old question pops up again: which laws are in effect?
* pictures of living persons (because according to German law...)
* pictures of Geschmacksmuster-protected objects like cars - i dont know
what Geschmacksmuster is, but it does sound German. :-)
The coats of arms question is different matter. What limitations apply will
probably differ from country to country.
i wish you health and happiness,
teun spaans
On 5/22/07, Klaus Graf <klausgraf(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
Following a deletion debate on Commons [1], we
are left with the
problem whether or not Public domain images that are under other
restrictions, such as coats of arms, are allowed under the Foundation
Licensing policy. If I quote Erik Moeller, from another thread [2] on
the mailing list:
'[...]the licensing policy has been specifically formulated to avoid
that problem. It requires content to be under a Free Content License,
which is defined as "a license which meets the terms of the Definition
of Free Cultural Works _specific to licenses_".[...]'
However, since we are talking about public domain, this does not apply
for this image, since public domain is not a license. This means that
another section of the resolution applies:
'[...] or which is otherwise free as recognized by the 'Definition of
Free Cultural Works' as referenced above.'
Which is not the case, this specific image is under more restrictions;
see the deletion debate for details. Is this analysis correct? Or
should we just treat public domain as a "free content license"?
Bryan
(cc'd to commons-l)
[1]
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:SilaTonga.svg
[2]
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2007-April/029468.html
I agree with en/Commons user Lupo who has, referring to the discussion at
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Urheberrechtsfragen#Grundsatzfragen
written:
"Now, the problem is this:
freedomdefined.org states that a "free"
work "must not be covered by legal restrictions (patents, contracts,
etc.) or limitations (such as privacy rights) which would impede the
freedoms enumerated above." That would mean that we'd need to look
beyond copyrights, and that the foundation's licensing policy did not
consider COAs and the like "free" works, even if they were fine
copyright-wise, because their use is often restricted by other laws.
Ugh. Looks like the overarching "free culture" activism expressed at
freedomdefined.org has some rather drastic and unpleasant consequences
for us".
There is a non exhaustive list of non-free content (content which can
be used for any purpose) in the German Wikipedia at:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilfe:FAQ_Rechtliches#Sind_alle_Inhalte_der_Wi…
According to the free content definition we cannot show at commons
(nor in the local branches without EDP):
* pictures of living persons (because according to German law
commercial use is only allowed with the content of the person AND it
is strictly forbidden to manipulate pictures, decision of
Bundesverfassungsgericht)
* pictures of coat of arms which are used by an institution (because
there are non-copyright-restrictions in all cases)
*pictures of Geschmacksmuster-protected objects like cars
*the Olympic rings
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Olympic_Games
and so on.
Klaus Graf
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