Response to Peter Southwood's question.
Are the investigators acting in bad faith? Does a mob know it is a mob, or is it that the
people in it have lost the capacity for self-critical and analytic thought? On the one
Orangemoody article I've been able to review so far, Bosch Sensortec
(
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosch_Sensortec), I found it to be a solidly-sourced,
neutrally-toned, and informative "stub." It's currently being derided by
Orangemoody investigators as promotional copy-and-paste of an alleged company press
release (which has not been pointed to) and further claimed without visible evidence to
have been contracted out by Orangemoody to a low-wage author through Elance.
The answer is that I don't know; in order to examine it further I'd like to view
the deleted articles to see for myself whether they were actually promotional and
unsourced obvious advocacy articles. Or if, like Bosch Sensortec, they tended actually to
be pretty good. Unfortunately the Orangemoody investigation's team has decided they
must remain unavailable to the public, allegedly to protect the article subjects from
repeat alleged victimization.
Trillium Corsage
03.09.2015, 07:55, "Peter Southwood" <email clipped>:
Do you really think they may be acting in bad faith?
Peter
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The Orangemoody network seems to have been providing a service: bring the apparently
self-submitted but failed drafts of articles of persons, organizations, and businesses up
to compliance with Wikipedia standards and get them live, then accept a previously
negotiated fee. After some months of safeguarding those articles for free, they would
offer to continue doing so at a monthly rate. I'm not seeing the harm.
Oh, I'd like to check if the articles were actually unduly promotional and POV and so
forth, unfortunately the erstwhile investigators have deleted them so no-one except
administrators may see. Which comes in handy for the investigators, because it means
everybody must go by their characterizations of the articles.
I heard a murmur that Orangemoody would actually request deletion of its own articles if
the subject failed to agree to the monthly fee, but Risker said this vaguely as if there
were only a couple or few examples of this.
As well, though the IP addresses have not been disclosed, one of the accused Orangemoody
accounts belongs to a Bangladeshi editor of three or more years. Raising the question of
whether geolocation to Bangladesh and other nearby poor countries was a clue to the
investigators to connect the Orangemoody accounts. Which on confirmation would raise the
further question of whether the entire case was almost exclusively comparatively well-off
westerners destroying the business and livelihood of impoverished Bangladeshis and other
easterners just trying to put food on the table for their kids.
Trillium Corsage
02.09.2015, 21:53, "Matt Campbell" <email clipped>:
> Glad to hear it.
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