And a shout-out to User:Daniel The Monk, our resident NYC Monastapedian :)
Thanks,
Pharos
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 3:51 AM, Ed Saperia <edsaperia(a)gmail.com> wrote:
A Wikimedia monastery! ^_^
Sent from my iPhone
On 26 Feb 2016, at 08:39, David Cuenca Tudela
<dacuetu(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I think there are more ways of supporting volunteers than just paying
them
cash. For instance another option could be to
offer them a place to stay,
food and healthcare. That is how many volunteer programs work, like
workaway or woofing, and I don't see anything wrong with it.
Would it be an acceptable compromise?
Regards,
Micru
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 6:49 AM, David Goodman <dggenwp(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Involving the foundation as a broker would corrupt the Foundation
> altogether. It would in essence turn it into an advertising agency.
We're
> supposed to be different from Google. Google
earns money by letting
itself
> be used as a medium for advertising. It at
least hopes to achieve this
by
> while not being evil, and succeeds
reasonably well at the compromise.
>
> Wikipedia fortunately does not need to earn money, as ordinary people
> freely give us more than enough for our needs, and can therefore hope
to
> achieve the positive good of providing
objective information on
> encyclopedic topics that people want to read about, not information that
> other organizations want people to read. We have no need to compromise.
>
>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 11:15 PM, SarahSV <sarahsv.wiki(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 10:31 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter <
putevod(a)mccme.ru>
>> wrote:
>>
>> - Possibly POV will be compromised in paid articles.
>>> - Unhealthy situation within the editing community. In the debates
with
>>> WMF staff when we disagreed, I always
felt awkward, because they were
>> paid
>>> arguing with me, and would do it until they convince me or I give up,
>> and I
>>> was doing this in my free time, and got tired very quickly. I also had
>> very
>>> unpleasant experiences interacting with some chapter people whose only
>> goal
>>> was to keep their position. They did not care about the quality,
>>> efficiency, anything, only about their personal good. And if somebody
>>> defends their personal good, you know, thy usually win, and the
quality
>>> loses. Now, imagine there is a
content dispute between a user who is
> paid
>>> (and is afraid to lose the salary) and a user who is unpaid and have
to
do
> the same for free - I am sure a paid user will be way more persistent.
>
>
> ​Yaroslav, we already have a lot of paid editors on the English
Wikipedia.
Some are Wikimedians in residence, and this has always been regarded as
okay, though I believe they're expected not to edit articles about the
institution that employs them.
But we also have a lot of paid PR editing and obvious COI problems
because
of that, as well as the problems you highlight
(e.g. the paid editor
being
more persistent).
Introducing the Foundation as a broker between organizations that want
articles and editors who want to write them would not solve all the
problems you highlight, but it would remove the COI aspect. So my
thinking
was that it would be better than the current
situation.
Sarah​
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