2008/6/13 Andrew Gray <shimgray(a)gmail.com>om>:
2008/6/12 Titan Deng <theodoranian(a)gmail.com>om>:
No, it's not true. If you can read the list
(the link I gave), those
articles are not controversial articles, not sensitive to the Chinese
government at all. Baidupedia has political censorship, and their staff
review and filter all materials which might be regarded as sensitive to
Chinese government.
I think this is a miscommunication - that is Henning's point. The
articles Baidu reuses are the politically unimportant ones, ones which
wouldn't need any censorship. As matters stand, Wikipedia can't get
these articles out into China; the firewall blocks the zh.wp articles
on Tiananmen Square and on cosmology without caring what's in them.
As a result, Baidu's copying of them means that people in China can at
least get *some* of our content, rather than none at all.
By the way, Chinese Wikipedia is not only contributed by mainland Chinese
users. Most of new articles are written by Taiwanese and Hong Kong
Wikipedians.
This time the issue is brought up due to a complaint from a Taiwanese
Wikipedian who is a main author of a featured article which has been copied
to Baidu for months.
In Wikimania 2007 press conference, Florence mentioned Baidu's copyright
infringement. Several days later Baidu had an official response stating that
Wikimedia's accusation unreasonable, because their policy prohibits copyvio
materials.
(
http://big5.xinhuanet.com/gate/big5/news.xinhuanet.com/internet/2007-08/07/…
)
Baidu is a very bad example which might imply that other Chinese website
could use Wikimedian contents without following GFDL.
Of course
it would be nice if they would acknowledge the license and
give proper attribution. But they can't - Wikipedia is banned and they
can't name this source.
The ban is not relative to their copyright violation. Wikipedia is not
prohibited to mention. The Great Fire Wall blocks the website with its
url (
wikipedia.org).
At least, according to GFDL, they can still mention 5 main authors
instead
of mentioning Wikipedia.
Mmm... this may work. Finding five main authors is so tricky that we
usually recommend a link to the wp history page, though - and a link
to a blocked site is pretty useless in terms of actually giving
attribution!
I think legally speaking it's not our responsibility to find ways for them
to give attribution to the authors. It is not reasonable they use those
articles and at the same time they need us to provide legal ways to them.
Just too over.
Titan
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