On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 11:07 PM, Erik Moeller <erik(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
than aggressively purging content in the fear that a
single byte of
potentially non-free content may infect the repository.
You're attacking a straw man. I hope you do not sincerely believe anybody
acts out of such a childish fear. Rather, we have committed volunteers at
Commons who take seriously our commitment to the world, to provide a
repository of files that can be (pretty) reliably reused under a free
license, or as public domain materials. Maintaining the integrity of the
collection, in the face of literally hundreds of problematic uploads every
single day, is a big job, and certainly some less-than-ideal decisions will
be made along the way.
Apart from the moaning I see on this email list, I generally hear good
things from those who visit Wikimedia Commons. "Tragedy?" Citation needed,
for real.
I think it's absolutely crucial to maintain that aspect of its identity.
So what is your proposal for how to effectively curate the firehose of good
and bad content that is uploaded to Commons day by day, hour by hour,
minute by minute? We have a collection of processes that has been good
enough to get us to where we are today. I don't think anybody believes it's
perfect, but it's gotten us this far. What, pray tell, would be the better
approach? Do you really think that if you present a better idea, it will be
rejected? Do you think we *enjoy* sifting through the details of a zillion
files, and comparing them to a zillion copyright laws, personality rights
laws, FOP laws, etc.? I guess I can only speak for myself, but I'd much
rather be creating content than curating it. But curation is the glaring,
everyday need at Commons, so I pitch in.
It's also absolutely crucial to keep my house from turning into a garbage
dump...which is why I take the garbage out every week.
But maintaining that commitment requires that we also maintain a capacity
for nuance in how we enforce it, or we turn into a
club of zealots nobody
wants to be part of rather than being effective advocates for our cause.
Good God, Erik. Seriously, with the name-calling? Seriously? I don't know
why you did it to begin with, but since you have, please share with us who
the zealots are, and give some evidence of zealous behavior. If the
"zealotry" is as obvious as you seem to assume, we should have no trouble
running those ne'erdowells out on a rail.
But the reality, I think, is much more straightforward: this "club of
zealots" is a figment of your imagination.
-Pete
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