I don't get it... What is the purpose of a temporary opt-out? I don't see what
that would solve. Power users still don't have a reason to use the VE, performance is
worse, handy tools are missing and a lot of things can't be done easily with VE.
As others have explained better than I, we think that
users will be
ill-served by this opt-out, and I hope that as few users as possible will
choose this way to degrade their experience and deprive the community of
their input. Instead of endlessly arguing the point about this, I'd rather
my team and I spending our time working to make our sites better.
With such lousy replies I hope that as much as users would opt-out to give a signal that a
different approach from developers/WMF is needed for local communities. And read please
also
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2013-July/127111.html Perhaps that
will give an idea why many users want an opt-out.
Romaine
James Forrester jforrester at
wikimedia.org
Wed Jul 24 01:56:16 UTC 2013
On 23 July 2013 00:01, Erik Moeller <erik at wikimedia.org> wrote:
> > As I've noted in my response to wikitech-l just now, there's also the
> > issue of what "opt-out" should mean as VE becomes increasingly more
> > pervasive in the user experience.
> >
> > But as I've noted in [1], I do not think a compromise on the
> > preference question is necessarily out of reach. I've asked James and
> > team to deliberate on some of the possibilities here, and offered the
> > same suggestion I noted in [1].
> >
>
> [As just posted to wikitech-l]
>
> Because I understand the level of concern that this matter is causing, I am
> changing my mind on this. For the duration of VisualEditor's "beta"
period,
> there will be an opt-out user preference. This will be deployed tomorrow
> morning, San Francisco time. Once VisualEditor is out of 'beta', this
> preference will be removed.
>
As others have explained better than I, we think that
users will be
ill-served by this opt-out, and I hope that as few users as possible will
choose this way to degrade their experience and deprive the community of
their input. Instead of endlessly arguing the point about this, I'd rather
my team and I spending our time working to make our sites better.
>
> Yours,
--
James D. Forrester
Product Manager, VisualEditor
Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
jforrester at
wikimedia.org | @jdforrester