Has anyone done a search on other logos with
similar characteristics, to
see how much they differ? I think the WTO is taking a chance with this.
Which specific aspects do they object to?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Maggie Dennis"
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Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 5:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage logo
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 8:21 PM, MZMcBride <z(a)mzmcbride.com> wrote:
Michelle Paulson wrote:
>Since then, the Foundation has received a
cease-and-desist letter from
>WTO, requesting that we change the logo. While we wish that the WTO
>with our assessment that the two logos contain substantial differences
>could co-exist, we understand their concern. We still believe that
>are some significant differences between the Wikivoyage logo and the
>however, such arguments are not guaranteed to win if we were to
>oppose this request because there are also some substantial
>With this in mind, as well as the fact that the Wikivoyage logo is
>relatively new and has not had a chance to build significant brand
>recognition yet, we believe the better solution is to hold a new
>contest for a new logo.
Will the current Wikivoyage logo be an option in this upcoming logo
selection contest? If the Wikivoyage community is strongly in favor of
retaining the logo it already approved, what are options?
On behalf of a Wikivoyager, I've already asked the legal team if
derivatives of the current logo would be usable, and I'm afraid the
is no. It must be a new logo.
I don't believe there's any precedent for the Wikimedia Foundation
a community-approved logo in this manner. (Is there?) This seems like
unchartered territory for Wikimedia, so it's important to be cautious
careful, I think.
I think that the reason why there's no precedent is because this is
first time that we have run into a trademark infringement claim against
We believe that the community is the best body to
decide what logo
>represent their hard work and hope that interested community members
>take this opportunity to once again showcase their creativity and
>by submitting designs.
As I posted on the relevant Meta-Wiki talk page just now, the Wikimedia
community cannot feel rushed or pressured to accept this new logo
selection procedure. Typically a discussion of this nature would last
least thirty days, from my experience.
This leaves two options, as I see it: pushing back the timeline for the
selection of a Wikivoyage logo by a few weeks or not using this
for the selection of the next Wikivoyage logo.
The question of process is one for Meta, where discussion is already
reason to fracture it. :) I appreciate your input there.
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