@Benjamin: I tried to put it into words, but I have realized that what I
have to say doesn't fit well into a short text. If you are really
interested, send me an email with your availability and we can have a video
call about it.
@Chris: Thanks for the recommendation, but I don't feel like pasting it
there without proper context, and it is not my priority right now. If you
or any of them want more details they can contact me any time.
Regards,
Micru
On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 12:08 PM Chris Keating <chriskeatingwiki(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi Micru,
How about documenting your insights on here. I know a number of people in
the Roles & Responsibilities group have been reading with interest, thank
you very much for sharing.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Wo…
Chris
On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 4:23 PM David Cuenca Tudela <dacuetu(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
@Benjamin: It is already there, as answer to
Farkhad.
@Ziko: I have no idea where to store this. If you find a suitable place,
please go ahead and let me know.
Regards,
Micru
On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 3:11 PM Ziko van Dijk <zvandijk(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hello, maybe there is a suitable place on Meta
Wiki to conserve this?
Later
it will be a little bit difficult to find it
again on a mailinglist.
I myself find this point of view of "outsiders" very interesting and
worth
to notice e.g. in strategic discussions.
Kind regards
Ziko
Am Mo., 18. Feb. 2019 um 11:41 Uhr schrieb David Cuenca Tudela <
dacuetu(a)gmail.com>gt;:
> Hi Bodhisattwa,
>
>
> *Governance recommendation *
> I assisted to a session on sociocracy organized by the Transition
Network
that
basically blew my mind. The speaker explained how for her it has
been
> always difficult to participate in decision-making because she feels
that
> > she is a very vocal person, and she felt that with democracy it was
> mostly
> > about taking sides and wining or losing, which was quite
disappointing
> for
> > her. Then she started to explain the sociocratic principles of
decision
> by
> > consent, and what does that mean.
> >
> > What is interesting about sociocracy itself, is not the process or
the
> > method, but how it challenges the
participants to truly understand
the
>
meaning of a decision, and their own relationship with it. Objections
are
> > seen as a gift that will help improve the proposal, once they have
been
> > properly understood. Normally it takes
effort from the participants
to
> > address their own personal issues as
well, because they have an
impact
on
> how the group can operate.
>
> Trust can be built during in person sessions, and it is necessary for
the
> > group to operate smoothly. Sociocracy is not for people who like to
> > accumulate power, or are not able to share power with others, and
that
> can
> > drive people away. On the other hand, those who stay feel more
included
> and
> > supported by the organisation. There is also an element of
celebration,
> > which sometimes we forget. Taking
decisions is hard work, and we
should
> > celebrate when we reach one.
> >
> > Sociocracy it is easy to grasp, but difficult to master. The members
of
> the
> > Transition Network had to undergo a training during a long time at
the
> > Université de Nous, to become
proficient in this method. There is
also
a
> software that assists self-organization:
https://www.holaspirit.com/
>
> Regards,
> Micru
>
> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 8:45 AM Bodhisattwa Mandal <
> bodhisattwa.rgkmc(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Micru,
> >
> > I am interested about your thoughts about governance recommendation
for
> > the
> > > movement and community model of affiliates.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Bodhisattwa
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 18 Feb 2019, 12:14 Фархад Фаткуллин / Farkhad Fatkullin <
> > > frhd(a)yandex.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > Micru,
> > > > I would be interested to learn about "External perception of
the
> > > > movement".part of your insights.
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > from Russia with love,
> > > > farhad
> > > >
https://ru.wikimedia.org/wiki/Smart_region
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Farhad Fatkullin - Фархад Фаткуллин
http://sikzn.ru/
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> > /
> > > > skype:frhdkazan / Wikipedia:frhdkazan / WMRU:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 18.02.2019, 02:35, "David Cuenca Tudela"
<dacuetu(a)gmail.com>om>:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > Last Friday I participated in a workshop in Brussels where
people
> > from
> > > > > different NGOs met to learn from each other to foster flat,
> > > > > democratic, and diverse organisations. I was one of four
speakers
> in
> > a
> > > > > "world cafe" format (basically a circle where
participants can
> > > > > interact with the speaker). I represented the Wikimedia
movement
in
> > > > general, with the intention
that participants would learn from
our
> > > > movement, and so that I would
learn from them. There were also
Open
> > > > > Space sessions.
> > > > >
> > > > > If there is interest, I can share with you my insights on any
of
> > these
> > > > topics:
> > > > > - External perception of the movement
> > > > > - Recommendations to the WMF
> > > > > - Governance recommendations for the movement
> > > > > - Community model for affiliates
> > > > > - How to increase diversity
> > > > >
> > > > > There is a lot to say about each topic, so please ask only
about
> the
> > > > > topic you have genuine interest in. If there is no interest,
I'm
ok
> > > > keeping it to myself.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Micru
> > > >
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