@Benjamin: I tried to put it into words, but I have realized that what I have to say doesn't fit well into a short text. If you are really interested, send me an email with your availability and we can have a video call about it.
@Chris: Thanks for the recommendation, but I don't feel like pasting it there without proper context, and it is not my priority right now. If you or any of them want more details they can contact me any time.
Regards, Micru
On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 12:08 PM Chris Keating chriskeatingwiki@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Micru,
How about documenting your insights on here. I know a number of people in the Roles & Responsibilities group have been reading with interest, thank you very much for sharing.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Wor...
Chris
On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 4:23 PM David Cuenca Tudela dacuetu@gmail.com wrote:
@Benjamin: It is already there, as answer to Farkhad.
@Ziko: I have no idea where to store this. If you find a suitable place, please go ahead and let me know.
Regards, Micru
On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 3:11 PM Ziko van Dijk zvandijk@gmail.com
wrote:
Hello, maybe there is a suitable place on Meta Wiki to conserve this?
Later
it will be a little bit difficult to find it again on a mailinglist. I myself find this point of view of "outsiders" very interesting and
worth
to notice e.g. in strategic discussions. Kind regards Ziko
Am Mo., 18. Feb. 2019 um 11:41 Uhr schrieb David Cuenca Tudela < dacuetu@gmail.com>:
Hi Bodhisattwa,
*Governance recommendation * I assisted to a session on sociocracy organized by the Transition
Network
that basically blew my mind. The speaker explained how for her it has
been
always difficult to participate in decision-making because she feels
that
she is a very vocal person, and she felt that with democracy it was
mostly
about taking sides and wining or losing, which was quite
disappointing
for
her. Then she started to explain the sociocratic principles of
decision
by
consent, and what does that mean.
What is interesting about sociocracy itself, is not the process or
the
method, but how it challenges the participants to truly understand
the
meaning of a decision, and their own relationship with it. Objections
are
seen as a gift that will help improve the proposal, once they have
been
properly understood. Normally it takes effort from the participants
to
address their own personal issues as well, because they have an
impact
on
how the group can operate.
Trust can be built during in person sessions, and it is necessary for
the
group to operate smoothly. Sociocracy is not for people who like to accumulate power, or are not able to share power with others, and
that
can
drive people away. On the other hand, those who stay feel more
included
and
supported by the organisation. There is also an element of
celebration,
which sometimes we forget. Taking decisions is hard work, and we
should
celebrate when we reach one.
Sociocracy it is easy to grasp, but difficult to master. The members
of
the
Transition Network had to undergo a training during a long time at
the
Université de Nous, to become proficient in this method. There is
also
a
software that assists self-organization: https://www.holaspirit.com/
Regards, Micru
On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 8:45 AM Bodhisattwa Mandal < bodhisattwa.rgkmc@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Micru,
I am interested about your thoughts about governance recommendation
for
the
movement and community model of affiliates.
Regards, Bodhisattwa
On Mon, 18 Feb 2019, 12:14 Фархад Фаткуллин / Farkhad Fatkullin < frhd@yandex.com wrote:
Micru, I would be interested to learn about "External perception of the movement".part of your insights. Thanks.
from Russia with love, farhad https://ru.wikimedia.org/wiki/Smart_region
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18.02.2019, 02:35, "David Cuenca Tudela" dacuetu@gmail.com: > Hello, > > Last Friday I participated in a workshop in Brussels where
people
from
> different NGOs met to learn from each other to foster flat, > democratic, and diverse organisations. I was one of four
speakers
in
a
> "world cafe" format (basically a circle where participants can > interact with the speaker). I represented the Wikimedia
movement
in
> general, with the intention that participants would learn from
our
> movement, and so that I would learn from them. There were also
Open
> Space sessions. > > If there is interest, I can share with you my insights on any
of
these
topics: > - External perception of the movement > - Recommendations to the WMF > - Governance recommendations for the movement > - Community model for affiliates > - How to increase diversity > > There is a lot to say about each topic, so please ask only
about
the
> topic you have genuine interest in. If there is no interest,
I'm
ok
> keeping it to myself. > > Regards, > Micru > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe:
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