On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 7:06 PM, Andrew Whitworth
<wknight8111(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Chad
<innocentkiller(a)gmail.com> wrote:
The issue is that they're never given a
chance to prove
themselves. I'd rather a project try and fail than not try
at all.
NA lot of our volunteers spend a lot of time and energy to maintain,
fix, and cleanup these projects when they do fail. Our human resources
(Stewards, SWMT, etc) should be valuable enough to us that we don't
extend their workload for some random shot in the dark. A project
should have more then a glancing chance at success before we give it
the green light, or we're going to become a garbage heap of
unmaintainable failed projects.
The Languages committee is usually pretty proud of the fact that since
they were created, not a single project that they've approved has died
or been closed as a failure. Far from throwing out all rules, we
should be looking to optimize their methods to reduce the number of
false negatives.
There is nothing bad in trying to help to someone. At the other hand,
need for localization, while, at one hand, is a bureaucratic measure,
it is a reasonable measure to prove that project will be alive. BTW,
adding 10 projects to ~650 (or even ~700) about stewards and SWMT care
-- is not a lot.
BUT, in this case Chad mentioned *Klingon*, a language created for
pleasure, not for communication. Such language may become a useful
one, but, today, it is not. Goals of WMF and people around it are not
to increase someone's pleasure, but to help in human education.
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Klingon was a mistake and never should've been created
for that reason alone. When I talk about languages being
given a chance, I mean real languages.
Klingon otoh is a fictional language (which is constructed,
but notably different from Esperanto, in that it's designed
for fun and not actual communication, as you said). It
would be akin to launching projects in Quenya or Khûzdul.
-Chad