The internet Mr. Zuggerberg wants was nothing to do with the ideas of free
knowledge, online collaboration and open source as it is provided and
promoted by Wikimedia.
Don't believe the Hype. Even and especially if it is Hype 2.0.
Just because the Silicon Valley billionaires got caught with sleeping with
the NSA suddenly they push an "open internet for the world"-Idea to
distract everybody from the dark roots.
Wikimedia should stay far away from this crowd and its "initiatives". Maybe
in the future we should even get more distance between them (Facebook,
Google, etc.) and us.
Jens
2013/8/26 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>
Hoi,
For your information ... an interview with Mr Zuggerberg... In my opinion
there is an opportunity as he is looking for dense information.. we are
really good at that :)
Thanks,
Gerard
http://www.wired.com/business/2013/08/mark-zuckerberg-internet-org/
On 23 August 2013 14:38, Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada <emijrp(a)gmail.com
wrote:
Looks like NSA has bought some new hard drives
and needs moar data.
2013/8/23 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>
Hoi,
But when they provide the infrastructure that allows our content to be
seen
by many more people, they do us a service.
In the end it is what we are about. Last thing I heard we were first of
all
about getting the knowledge out there.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 23 August 2013 12:14, Jens Best <jens.best(a)wikimedia.de> wrote:
> Nothing good comes with people like Mark Zuckerberg or Peter Thiel,
they
don't
share our vision of a *really* free and open internet. So,
actually,
> Emmanuel, I couldn't care less which direction they gonna make their
next
moves. It
will all be a disguise of what they really attempt and with
whom
> they really cooperate.
>
> It's time to realize that there isn't a shared vision of the web
between
> > Silicon Valley and Wikimedia. Their words are empty. When they speak
of
> > freedom, they speak of the freedom of
money and control. Just because
> they
> > use the word "internet" they don't speak of the same thing we
do.
> >
> > Jens
> >
> > 2013/8/23 Emmanuel Engelhart <kelson(a)kiwix.org>
> >
> > > Le 23/08/2013 10:59, Kul Wadhwa a écrit :
> > > > I have my concerns as well so we're watching how things unfold
for
now.
> > > Perhaps to add to Teemu's question (If I could be so bold) how
would
> > >
internet.org need to evolve to
make it worth our time and effort
to
be
> > involved?
>
> If what I fear becomes real, then I would be sad that our movement
joins
> > such a dishonest project.
> >
> > If they want to give access to a subset of Internet services and
adapt
>
their communication (honesty about the product), then we face a
dilemma.
> A dilemna between our wish to give access to
our content (tactical
move)
> > and the one of having a free, neutral and un-clustered Internet
> > (strategical view)... Big discussions in view, but we already have
done
> > it with Wikipedia zero and I know the
WMF tends to be pragmatic in
such
> > > situations ;)
> > >
> > > If they really want to help to give a neutral access to internet...
> then
> > > this is really a dream we should be part of!
> > >
> > > But, this is all about speculations...
> > >
> > > I just wanted to explain why this launch doesn't sound well to my
> hears.
> > > But I know nothing about their real intentions and concrete
projects.
> >
That's why, it's IMO urgent to wait... and see in which direction
they
> > will make the next moves.
> >
> > Emmanuel
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