Can I suggest to all parties that, as was the case last time this came up
here, raking this conflict over the coals here on a mailing list where very
few of us have direct knowledge of the situation, or the power to do
anything about it in any case, is probably not helpful for anyone? I am
especially uncomfortable at the notion of the discussion of people's HR
records and personal lives in a public forum such as this.
Cheers,
Craig
On 24 November 2017 at 06:23, Xavier Combelle <xavier.combelle(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Emeric,
When you say, that no sanction has filed his HR record, you are half or
completely lying.
The existence of a "rappel à l'ordre" (warning)
is an argument which can support fire someone of the staff so it should
be in a HR record.
In the same way Sylvain never said he is writing his email on behalf of
an union of the employees of Wikimedia France
but that he is the representative of the the employees of Wikimedia
France which is plenty true.
From the whole wikimedia france, movement, during the #wmfrgate, it was
only you Emeric and the old direction as a whole
that your declaration don't match the facts or your subsequent
declaration, as it it happened during the #bandeaugate in summer last year.
I have still to see the said "lies" from your opponent which contradicts
other public information (apart the words of you and the old direction)
Xavier Combelle
Le 23/11/2017 à 20:54, Emeric Vallespi a écrit :
Sylvain,
I have to answer to your email where you’re especially lying.
You say that you’re writing on behalf of a union section of the
employees of
Wikimedia France but I’m personally curious to know the weight
of this union section. My question is actually: who else is represented by
your email, if not yourself?
Moreover, you’re saying that you received a « warning » (?) because you
had a
girlfriend. Is it serious?
Your employer asked you to distinguish
professional time and personal
time. Indeed, you were reminded that you had to
dedicate your work hours to
the missions that were devoted to you and not to solve problems related to
your personal life, especially if it interferes with organization’s
activities and governance. It is also you who came, on your own, to tell us
about the complexity of your personal and relationship situation in order
to benefit of professional arrangements. The direction never looked for,
nor asked, any information on this subject.
You’re mentioning the cancellation of the letter. Since, to my
knowledge, no
sanction has been filed to your HR record, I do not really
see what have been canceled.
I can understand that supporting your new board
of trustees, involved in
the governance issues and in the criminal complaints filed
is critical to
show your loyalty.
Do you know how impatient am I to discover your next fable? I guess the
only one
never mentioned yet is maybe about a murder or something (although
a streetfight scenario has already been invented x’D).
I think it was important to re-explain all those points so that the
community,
which is - again - unnecessarily taken as witness, is not
deceived by a scenario built from scratch.
Again, to discredit the movement by such
erroneous but public
accusations still shows that only personal interests and
vainness matter in
this conflict with some people.
For months, several lies have been told by different people. Because the
Wikimedia
community protect itself and its members by harassing and
defaming people who question the probity and integrity of some of its
members doesn’t make of this lies the truth.
Best regards to all of you,
--
Emeric Vallespi
> On 22 Nov 2017, at 13:37, Sylvain Boissel <sylvain.boissel(a)wikimedia.fr>
wrote:
>
> Hi Katherine,
>
> 2017-10-19 23:19 GMT+02:00 Katherine Maher <kmaher(a)wikimedia.org>rg>:
>
>> [...]
>> We are committed to working with the new Wikimédia France conseil
>> d’administration (governing board) to support the French community as
they
>> work to address and resolve these and
other outstanding issues. The
>> Wikimedia Foundation and the new leadership of Wikimédia France are
already
>> cooperating to address the
governance-related concerns raised by the
>> volunteer Funds Dissemination Committee in the first half of 2017. As
part
>> of this work, we have encouraged them to
review how they will
independently
>> handle claims of harassment in the
future. The Wikimedia Foundation and
>> Wikimédia France share a common goal: a healthy, welcoming, respectful,
>> inclusive Wikimedia community in France.
>>
>> I know I am not alone in my dismay for how these events have unfolded.
Many
>> dedicated, good-faith members of the
French community, including
current
>> community members and present and former
Wikimédia France board and
staff
>> members, have experienced distress and
anxiety over recent months.
Those
>> outside of the community have watched
with dismay as our peers and
friends
>> have found themselves disoriented,
distressed, alienated, or at odds
with
>> one another. And yet we also know that
many in France now feel a
renewed
>> sense of purpose for building the healthy
and welcoming community we
all
>> desire.
> As the representative of the local branch of the labor union
> ASSO-Solidaires at Wikimédia France, I wanted to thank you and the WMF
> staff members who took part in the site visit in Paris in July (namely
> Katy Love, Winifred Olliff, Stephen Laporte and James Baldwin) for
hearing
> the distress of the staff members at a time
when Wikimédia France's
board
> plainly refused to discuss with the staff.
>
> I also wanted to confirm that things are getting better with the new
board
> elected in September.
>
> I cannot speak about what my coworkers went through without asking them
> first, but I can share an example from my own story: in February, I was
> issued a « rappel à l'ordre » (warning) by the former direction and
> board, accusing
> me of disloyalty to the chapter because I had a girlfriend. It was
> cancelled this month by the new board, and this is a huge relief to me.
>
> Best regards,
> Sylvain.
>
> --
> *Sylvain Boissel*
> Délégué du personnel et Responsable de la section syndicale
ASSO-Solidaires
> *WIKIMÉDIA FRANCE*
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