Hi Castelo,
just to make the discussion clearer: could you just give say 5 or 10 examples of topics where you believe oral citations are unavoidable? Then I hope that Ziko in his turn can explain how we can write about those examples without using them.
Best regards, Lodewijk
No dia 25 de Fevereiro de 2012 05:17, Castelo <michelcastelobranco@gmail.com
escreveu:
On 24-02-2012 23:18, Ziko van Dijk wrote:
Those people who would like to write on Wikipedia about any subject can write a book or pdf about it. It does not have to be a scholarly work in every aspect. And then, the Wikipedia in language X can decide that it accepts this kind of literature as reliable. (Those various standards are not uncommon in the different Wikipedias.) Not everything has to happen*in* Wikipedia. Kind regards Ziko
In the case of Oral Citations, the people who tells the facts are not the same people who want to write on Wikipedia, and definitively, not people willing to write a book or pdf. Editors are recording them for using this material in Wikipedia.
We are willing to apply this in Brazil, with indigenous traditions. Some of the indians cannot write a book, a pdf or a Wikipedia article and those are exactly who have more expertise on their traditions. This can give them authority when describing their rituals, clothings, artefacts, fights, cuisine, etc., much more than a wikipedian can. And we still have a huge lack on articles about them, because for certains indigenous nations, there are almost no published material (some have no written material at all, as far as i know). I live in the capital city, where some of them usually come for present their culture in a national museum, and go back to their territories. In moments like these, we wikimedians can go there, take photos and record an interview (most speak a bit Portuguese, as well as their own languages), for publishing in Commons and Commons/Wikinews, respectively, for using in Wikipedia articles.
I'm not thinking only on Wikipedia, we have also other projects not mentioned here, that can work together on it. Each project for a kind of content. In Wikinews, original reporting is fine, in Wikiversity, even original research is fine. They can be more reliable than a book, in some cases. It depends on how we do that, by reviewing, approval, etc, there's a lot of extensions that can be used on it.
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