Hi,
The IRC channels where public, on-topic discussions are held usually have public logging, like #wikimedia-office. And regardless of the channel, discussions within them have no bearing on onwiki actions. In other words, binding decisions cannot be made solely on IRC. That is very different with a movement strategy discussion.
Regards, Vermont
On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 13:32 Aron Manning aronmanning5@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Todd,
I'm not sure how your comment about "backchanneling" is applicable to a recording made in public. Please express your views in a good-faith and respectful manner.
On Wikimedia projects, we do things in full public view.
To prove your point, please link to the log of the irc channels and the admin back-channels to start with.
Aron
On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 19:21, Todd Allen toddmallen@gmail.com wrote:
Nicole,
While I appreciate you taking the time to respond, this is exactly why we distrust this kind of backchanneling. If you have something to say, you
say
it publicly, open to criticism and dispute. You don't say it in a "salon" or a "survey" or anything else insulated from that. On Wikimedia
projects,
we do things in full public view.
Todd
On Tue, Feb 18, 2020, 10:14 AM Nicole Ebber nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hello again,
I now realised that none of the participants in the audience was aware of us recording them, and that we aren't able to identify them to ask for their consent. We are not going to release the full video, but are of course happy to answer potential questions and create more clarity where needed.
Best wishes, Nicole
On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 11:30, Nicole Ebber nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hello Todd,
Thanks for your question. The video is indeed incomplete. We cut if for the viewer's comfort, as the original version is ~60 mins long, and has questions and interaction with the audience at All Hands. Our main objective for this video was to focus on conveying the broad context and content of each recommendation in a quick and accessible way, without putting too much emphasis on specific recommendations or details.
We'll look into whether the dialogues offer additional clarity. We might also have to identify those who have asked the questions and
get
their consent to publish. That can take a couple of days, so please stay tuned.
Best wishes, Nicole
On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 at 21:25, Todd Allen toddmallen@gmail.com
wrote:
Hello Nicole,
The second video seems to be incomplete. There are, for example,
several
jump cuts, e.g., at 05:07, 11:08, 17:08, 22:31, etc. At 11:14 the presenters invite questions or comments, and at 41:32 someone is
clearly
being called upon to offer one, but they are not shown in the
video.
Could
you please provide a link to the entire video without cuts,
including
any
questions or comments and the responses to them?
Todd
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 10:45 AM Nicole Ebber <
nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de>
wrote:
Hi everyone,
We’re in week 4 of community conversations about the movement
strategy
recommendations. Thank you to everyone who has already taken
part.
The
community conversations will continue until Friday, February 21 -
you
can get involved on Meta[1] in Arabic, English, French, German,
Hindi,
Spanish, and Portuguese, strategize with your community or organization, or send the core team your feedback to strategy2030@wikimedia.org.
This current round of community conversations is the last
opportunity
to suggest improvements to the recommendations. They will be
finalized
before the end of March, and then published for the movement to understand them, reflect on what they mean in their project,
local,
or
thematic context, and move into implementation.
== Movement feedback: what happens next == All feedback is being collected, reviewed and analyzed on an
ongoing
basis. Here are the next steps after February 21:
- Week commencing February 24: the core team will summarize all
the
feedback received in a report. You are welcome to continue
commenting
and discussing during this time, but the discussions will not be
as
closely facilitated and documented.
- Week commencing March 2: the core team will publish the above
report
on Meta to give the movement an opportunity to review the content
and
give feedback as to whether it accurately reflects their input.
The
closing date for this is March 6. This summary report will then
be
finalized and published.
In mid-March, the feedback from the Board of Trustees, movement conversations and reviewers' input will be considered in the
creation
of the final, improved set of recommendations. A rationale for
things
that have not been considered will be provided, too. Our aim is
to
have the recommendations finalized and published in late March.
More
about the actual integration work coming soon.
== Video and podcast about our work; one-pager == Members of the core team - Tanveer Hasan, Information and
Knowledge
Liaison, and Mehrdad Pourzaki, Information and Knowledge Manager
recently held a presentation about all the recommendations at the Wikimedia Foundation All Hands. They provide a quick, concise
overview
of every recommendation and also some insight into how each was developed. Video of the presentation [2] and the presentation
slides
[3] are now on Commons.
Jan Ainali has interviewed me for his podcast Wikipedia Podden.
I’m
speaking with him about the past, present and future of movement strategy[4].
The one-pager created by Andrew Lih (User:Fuzheado) has been very popular. Again, a big thank you to Andrew for putting this
together.
In addition to Arabic, English, and Hindi versions, it is now
also
available in Farsi [5, 6].
== Meeting notes from the office hours == We have published a condensed summary of the meeting notes [7]
from
the office hours that were held by the core team on Thursday,
January
- The notes provide an overview of the key points and questions
that
were raised during the two calls as well as summaries of the responses.
== Do you have further questions? == Members of the core team will join the upcoming Wikimedia Café on February 15 [8], which will focus on the movement strategy recommendations. The Wikimedia Café is a community-led meeting
hosted
by User:Pine and User:Bluerasberry, and we are happy to take part
and
help answer any questions people may have about the
recommendations.
Additionally, if you are looking for more information about any
of
the
above topics or about the movement strategy in general, take a
look
at
our FAQ section [9].
Happy weekend, Nicole
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommen...
[2]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_movement_strategy_recommen...
[3]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Movement_Strategy_at_WM...
[4]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WP_72_-_Wikimedia_2030,_a_strategy_i...
[5]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:One-page_overview_of_the_first_versi...
[6]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%D9%85%D9%84%D8%AE%D9%91%D8%B5_%D8%A...
[7]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Reports/...
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Frequent...
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