Training sets already contain images from Commons, so yes, I believe the implications should be considered.
On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 4:46 PM Newyorkbrad newyorkbrad@gmail.com wrote:
This whole subject raises interesting and important legal and ethical issues, but are there any direct implications at this time for Wikipedia/Wikimedia projects?
Newyorkbrad/IBM
On Sunday, January 19, 2020, Ryan Merkley rmerkley@wikimedia.org wrote:
I don't believe it implies that. As with many things legal, the answer re: derivatives is likely "it depends".
R.
On Sat, Jan 18, 2020, 10:30 PM Benjamin Ikuta benjaminikuta@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for that.
Pardon me if I've missed something, but that seems to imply, but not directly state, that AI training is a derivative work; could you clarify that?
On Jan 18, 2020, at 2:58 PM, Ryan Merkley rmerkley@wikimedia.org
wrote:
[My comments are my own, and don’t reflect or suggest any official
position from WMF]
The NBC story linked below come out about a year ago. Around the same
time, when I was CEO at Creative Commons, we published a statement and updated FAQs that attempted to respond to questions being asked about permitted uses and attribution related to the licenses.
CC’s statement (March 2019) is here:
shared-images-in-facial-recognition-ai/
shared-images-in-facial-recognition-ai/
The FAQs are here:
https://creativecommons.org/faq/#artificial-intelligence-and-cc-licenses
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https://creativecommons.org/faq/#artificial-intelligence-and-cc-licenses
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On Jan 18, 2020, at 2:14 PM, John Erling Blad jeblad@gmail.com
wrote:
There are several reports of face recognition going mainstream, often in less than optimum circumstances, and often violating copyright and licenses
privacy-facial-recognition.html
dirty-little-secret-millions-online-photos-scraped-n981921
https://www.ibm.com/blogs/research/2019/01/diversity-in-faces/
In my opinion building a model for face recognition is a derived work, and as such must credit the photographers. That pose a real problem when the photographers counts in the millions and billions. Even a 1px fine print would be troublesome!
What is the official stance on this? Is it a copyright infringement or not, does the license(s) cover the case or not?
John Erling Blad /jeblad
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