On Aug 11, 2014 1:57 AM, "phoebe ayers" <phoebe.wiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 3:12 AM, MZMcBride <z(a)mzmcbride.com> wrote:
Hi.
....
> I'm interested to read others' views about options and ways forward
here.
I think the most helpful thing would be to not attempt to start wars, and
particularly not on behalf of anyone or against individuals. We are all on
the same side here: trying to make the projects (and the project
interfaces, as a part of that) better. That includes, for instance, trying
out a new way of viewing photographs.
I assume of course and as always that you send your message from a place
of
also wanting the projects to be better and more
usable. But it is hard to
see how anything you suggest above gets us there.
best,
-- phoebe
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Helpful to not start wars? Well, yes, that would be helpful. But the war is
already underway, started by the shots Erik has fired.
The question now is how we restore peace. But "Shut up and give up local
control" is not the answer to that question. As with any conflict, hard
lines will lead to escalation and digging in.
There are steps we could take to ensure changes are desired and welcomed by
local communities. Some need to take place on the community side, many on
the WMF side. But ramming unwanted stuff in is not the way there.
If Erik will not step back from this brink, I fear we will see more
escalation. This isn't just about Media Viewer, or Visual Editor, or
ACTRIAL. It is about WMF being seen as usurping local project control to
deploy its pet projects. Whether that perception is right or not,
perception is reality here.
Your move, Erik. Please don't continue on this road. We're supposed to be
on the same side.