--- El dom, 10/10/10, Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemowiki(a)gmail.com> escribió:
De: Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemowiki(a)gmail.com>
Asunto: Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Foundation-l] How to improve quality of Wikipedia?
Para: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
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CC: "Research into Wikimedia content and communities"
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Fecha: domingo, 10 de octubre, 2010 19:45
Przykuta, 10/10/2010 19:17:
Old talk pages with solved problems are deleted.
This is extremely strange. Talk pages are part of the
article history.
Ortega's thesis should be updated, perhaps.
«The combination of a very active cohort of bots,
together
with the very low ratio of talk pages, indicates that the
Polish
language version is not following the
same organizational pattern found in other language
editions. Such a low
ratio of talk pages points out
the little effort undertaken on coordination actions and
discussion
about article contents in the Polish
version.»
(
http://libresoft.es/Members/jfelipe/phd-thesis , p.
91)
Thanks for pointing out this, Nemo. I might have missed the thread in Foundation-l
otherwise :).
Well, at least this gives a partial explanation for the very low ratio of available talk
pages, though I personally think it is not enough to explain such a really really low
figure.
In fact, I concur that this is very strange. As far as I have understood up to now, talk
pages also serve as a backup log of past discussions for new users approaching an article
for the first time. If this is true, then in PL some new editor of an article might run
the risk of raising again a issue or a contribution that was already discussed a year ago
by editors working on that article.
Best,
Felipe.
Talk pages of
dynamic IP are deleted too (we wait ~6
months and delete them by bot). I don't
know - is it
standard behavior in other Wikiepdias or specific for pl.
This isn't very relevant. On it.wiki they used to be
deleted by
(unapproved) bots (run under sysop accounts); since some
years they're
just replaced with a "welcome IP" template every month if
they're more
than a month old.
> * Finally, Polish Wikipedia has fewer active
users
than any of the
> next three "smaller" Wikipedias -
Italian,
Japanese and Spanish -
> which might be significant here. Fewer users
talk
less, so there's
fewer
"natural" discussion pages.
True - we have only ~300 very active users. We rather
use main. One of the most
often used slogan is "we work
here, not talk". Many times we spend in "flagged revisions"
- so, we are sure, that 90% are free of vandalism.
This is very important. The real question is: how can
pl.wiki be so big
(and useful, looking at pageviews) with such a little
editor base? Seems
a good result.
Nemo
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