Without having formed in opinion either way to what has come out of the trial or the straw polls, I don't understand why there is such importance placed on *technically* disabling the feature. If en.WP doesn't want to use it, why don't they not just move all the articles back to semi-protection? Empty out the pending changes from the on-wiki interface. This would likely have to be done *before* disabling it anyways. Just because the extension is installed doesn't mean it has to be used. I can see no reason why Erik or Danese should be being asked to determine consensus.
I get that this is an important political issue for various people. I don't get why the devs are being focused on. Please let the devs out of the argument. I can't imagine why any of them would want to touch that button with a ten-foot pole until you have clearly decided. Especially as it isn't really necessary for them to be involved in achieving a negative result.
Birgitte SB
--- On Tue, 9/28/10, Erik Moeller erik@wikimedia.org wrote:
From: Erik Moeller erik@wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Pending Changes development update: September 27 To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Tuesday, September 28, 2010, 4:42 PM 2010/9/28 Risker risker.wp@gmail.com:
Ummm, no, Erik. The objective was to have consensus to
KEEP it on, not
consensus to turn it off, and that was always the
agreement. There was
never, until the lack of consensus to keep it on
became clear, a direct
suggestion that we'd be stuck with it.
Anne, there are no obvious answers here. Two thirds of the community told us "Please keep this feature enabled", some of whom said "we should expand this to all (BLP|high-risk articles|whatever)". Jimmy posted interpreting this as direction-setting for continued testing and development, and asking us to provide a development timetable, which we did. Had we then said "Oh, sorry, no consensus for anything, we'll just turn it all off for now", we'd have a different set of people heaping blame on WMF right now. At the end of the day it's just a feature that we're continuing to improve, and it's up to the enwiki community to figure out how/why/where it wants to use it. We have no stake in this, other than wanting to support the project as best we can. -- Erik Möller Deputy Director, Wikimedia Foundation
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