Without having formed in opinion either way to what has come out of the trial or the straw
polls, I don't understand why there is such importance placed on *technically*
disabling the feature. If en.WP doesn't want to use it, why don't they not just
move all the articles back to semi-protection? Empty out the pending changes from the
on-wiki interface. This would likely have to be done *before* disabling it anyways. Just
because the extension is installed doesn't mean it has to be used. I can see no reason
why Erik or Danese should be being asked to determine consensus.
I get that this is an important political issue for various people. I don't get why
the devs are being focused on. Please let the devs out of the argument. I can't
imagine why any of them would want to touch that button with a ten-foot pole until you
have clearly decided. Especially as it isn't really necessary for them to be involved
in achieving a negative result.
Birgitte SB
--- On Tue, 9/28/10, Erik Moeller <erik(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
From: Erik Moeller <erik(a)wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Pending Changes development update: September 27
To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
<foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Date: Tuesday, September 28, 2010, 4:42 PM
2010/9/28 Risker <risker.wp(a)gmail.com>om>:
Ummm, no, Erik. The objective was to have
consensus to
KEEP it on, not
consensus to turn it off, and that was always the
agreement. There was
never, until the lack of consensus to keep it on
became clear, a direct
suggestion that we'd be stuck with it.
Anne, there are no obvious answers here. Two thirds of the
community
told us "Please keep this feature enabled", some of whom
said "we
should expand this to all (BLP|high-risk
articles|whatever)". Jimmy
posted interpreting this as direction-setting for continued
testing
and development, and asking us to provide a development
timetable,
which we did. Had we then said "Oh, sorry, no consensus for
anything,
we'll just turn it all off for now", we'd have a different
set of
people heaping blame on WMF right now. At the end of the
day it's just
a feature that we're continuing to improve, and it's up to
the enwiki
community to figure out how/why/where it wants to use it.
We have no
stake in this, other than wanting to support the project as
best we
can.
--
Erik Möller
Deputy Director, Wikimedia Foundation
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