I am pretty sure we already have the Bible translated in all the languages
(don't know because I didn't check). You inspired me though to think about
the benefits of interlinking it down to the word level and how that might
benefit Wikidata in achieving a level playing field in basic terminology
for everyday terms like "tree" "book" etc. We are still missing so
many
labels on Wikidata. Sigh
On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 8:14 PM, Amir E. Aharoni <
amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:
(I'm not sure I was understood correctly... I
didn't mean translating the
Bible to yet more languages, but translating an encyclopedia to more
languages.)
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“We're living in pieces,
I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
2017-05-17 21:11 GMT+03:00 Jane Darnell <jane023(a)gmail.com>om>:
That is an interesting idea! Maybe we should be
working on modelling the
Bible better on Wikidata and cross-referencing it to dictionaries and all
other religious texts. If it is so important for literacy, it may help
unite efforts on labelling in Wikidata. I have no idea how many words are
used in the Bible, but hopefully it will cover a lot of basic ground in
any
language.
If the 2bn falls through I bet we could ask the Vatican for a grant to
Wikidatafy the entire Catholic encyclopedia.
On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 7:38 PM, Amir E. Aharoni <
amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:
> Heh, I remember Mr Wales asking what could the movement do with a
million
dollars
some time around 2006. Is anything on the horizon?
What could we do? Many things; one of them would be to get our act
together
> and become a true leader in software and content localization.
Currently
we
are proud about maintaining MediaWiki, a piece of
software that is
probably
translated to more languages than any other, and
that is great, but:
1. Our software localization tooling, excellent as it is, didn't become
the
> industry standard, even though it could with better packaging. Why is
it
important? Because a Wikipedia in a given language doesn't exist in
isolation—it exists in an environment of other programs, sites,
platforms,
and media. There was a (relatively) thriving
software localization
community in the Catalan language already in the 1990s (!), so it's not
surprising that Catalan Wikipedia was the first to start after English,
and
> is among the most successful Wikimedia projects now. Making software
> localization better for everybody will bring computer usage to the
whole
world,
and we can be the leaders in it, rather than leaving it to the
corporations.
2. We have the theoretical ability to write articles in any language of
the
> world, but not everybody actually does it. Some language communities
need
> stronger nudges than others to get going:
Training about translation
and
> scientific writing, developing terminology,
developing spelling
> dictionaries, developing keyboards that allow convenient typing,
literacy
programs,
etc. In a lot of languages the Bible is the only published
book;
this happened thanks to donations from people who
want to spread their
religion around the world. If it can be done with the Bible, it can be
done
> with an encyclopedia.
> 3. We are influencing public policy in the area of copyright law, but
we
should be
influencing public policy around the whole world to make
localized computing and content more accessible. Lobbying needs
resources.
> See
>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Strategy/Wikimedia_
> movement/2017/Cycle_2/A_Truly_Global_Movement#Governments_
> and_computer_vendors:_Accessibility_to_localization_technology
>
>
> --
> Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי
>
http://aharoni.wordpress.com
> “We're living in pieces,
> I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
>
> 2017-05-17 20:08 GMT+03:00 David Cuenca Tudela <dacuetu(a)gmail.com>om>:
>
> > Are there any activities that could have a meaningful impact if we
ask
> > donors for such amount of seed money?
Are there reasons to do so?
> >
> > Do we have the guts to do so?
> >
> > Do we have the organizational capital to handle it? Or can we get
there
soon?
Do we have the moral right to take a lead in the world and ask for as
much
> resources as needed?
>
> Is our leader and our members willing to take big undertakings?
>
> Are most of us ready to live in fear while the values that we cherry
most
> would crumble under our own eyes?
>
> Would it matter much if we as a movement would disappear? Or is it a
> struggle always a positive answer against the shadows in the world?
>
> Can we offer anything else in this world than truth, free knowledge,
and
> an
> > open inclusive environment?
> >
> > Would you take best wishes from a stranger like me?
> >
> >
> > Micru
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