The problem of false positives from mirrors doesn't exist if we scan edits as they are made.
Maggie says herehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Emergency_block_of_an_editor_with_which_I_have_been_previously_involvedthat copyright bots populate WP:SCV https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SCV So a similarly-configured bot could scan recent changes and tag suspected copyvios in watchlists and page histories like suspected vandalism is currently tagged. Ideally the edit summary would contain a url to the suspected source. Maggie points out that those copyright bots were blocked for a while (from scanning Google I presume) due to a negative impact on Google, and this problem was solved by someone writing a cheque.
False positives won't be a problem, unless they're more than, say, 50%. If a recent changes patroller can't confirm the copyvio, they can let it go. But an editor whose "contributions" list is peppered with such warnings would stand out like a sore thumb.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SCV
Anthony Cole http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anthonyhcole Memberships secretary Wiki Project Med Foundationhttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Project_Med
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:36 AM, rupert THURNER rupert.thurner@gmail.comwrote:
Salut florence, i obviously need to improve my English :) Marco suggested human checking to avoid false positives and some annotation that it happened. In my eyes the cited case is a verbatim copy of some compatible license text which could be used as an example to demonstrate what he ment. I did not see such a thing up to now and would not be 100% sure how to do it correctly. So i asked.
Rupert Am 15.11.2013 13:44 schrieb "Florence Devouard" anthere9@yahoo.com:
Hmmmm
Rupert,
The case you mention is unrelated to any copyright infringement (the book is explicitely published under cc by sa. So there is no copyvio). Its mention here is like hair falling in soup.
Now, I think there is a developing personal feud between you and Iolenda. It sincerely saddens me to see two people I appreciate come to such a situation. Would you both consider talking to each other on Skype or something like this ? Alternatively, find someone neutral and nice to
help
fix things so that you can come to a mutual understanding ?
I understand that you both see things differently, but ultimately, you both are here to make things move on.
Flo
On 11/14/13 2:36 PM, rupert THURNER wrote:
There is such a case in http://en.m.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Education_in_Cameroon, reference is on the talk page. would you be so kind to mark or refer to
it
correctly?
rupert Am 13.11.2013 12:46 schrieb "Marco Chiesa" chiesa.marco@gmail.com:
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Chris McKenna cmckenna@sucs.org
wrote:
The problem isn't that we're waiting for perfection. We're waiting for
the
proportion of false positives and false negatives to fall to a level
where
don't overwhelm the true positives.
To avoid false positives from mirrors, the best option is to compare
a
text as soon as it is saved. Also, you exclude certain websites from the comparison because you know they're the mirrors, you exclude rollbacks, ... Then, it is better to have a human checking that it is really a copyvio (it could well be a public domain text, or another Wikipedia article).
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