David Cuenca Tudela,
Looking at the proposed grant you only asked for 36000, you get that, then
you decided that the WMF is being greedy and you now want more money. If
you need 72,000 should not your initial request realized that and adjusted
the requesting amount accordingly? I will also note that the WMF is fairly
careful on how they send their money because they are accountable for how
its used. Honestly if I had someone coming to me with a estimated price
tag, only to come back fairly quickly with an updated cost of almost double
I would question the persons competence and re-asses the initial decision
to support them.
On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 2:41 PM, David Cuenca Tudela <dacuetu(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hola Ivan,
Así es, la idea es que la WMF pague las becas de viaje para la gente que no
se lo puede permitir, y el resto de la conferencia lo pagaría la WMDE.
En este caso la cantidad para la bolsa de viaje me parece demasiada baja
para hacer que este evento (la primera vez que se realiza) funcione
adecuadamente.
Saludos,
David
On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 8:09 PM, Ivan Martínez <galaver(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hola David.
Hasta donde entendí está escrito en la subvención solicitada un total de
36
000 euros, y el resto iba a ser cubierto por
fondos que provienen de
WMDE.
¿No es así?. Como voluntario del Comité de
Subvenciones a Conferencias,
quedo pendiente y en consideración de tú comentario.
Saludos,
2017-06-28 13:02 GMT-05:00 Dariusz Jemielniak <darekj(a)alk.edu.pl>pl>:
> hi David,
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 7:52 PM, David Cuenca Tudela <
dacuetu(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Recently the review for the Wikidata conference grant application has
> > started, and I have complained that the funds allocated are
insuficient
> to
> > cover the needs of the grants. The requested amount for the grants
was
36,000 EUR, but in my opinion that should be at least
72,000 EUR.
You realize that this is pretty much what an annual budget of a small
Wikimedia chapter is, right?
> I have the feeling that the WMF is sitting on a pile of money just
giving
> breadcrumbs to the community, and the
community has to suffer in
silence
about
this stinginess.
The WMF, just as the movement, has a responsibility to our donors, to
spend
> the money wisely and frugally. We surely do not always do so, but we
try.
Why are there two standards? One standard seems
to be that everything
that
the WMF needs to allocate can go
unsupervised, whereas another standard
> seems to apply to community activities where every penny is so
supervised
> > that it becomes a pain in the ass to organize anything big.
> >
>
> The WMF's spending is actually reviewed and commented on by the
community
and the
FDC.
> The Wikidata Conference needs more funds to be a success and I think
that
in the
grand scheme of things, the money requested is just peanuts
compared
to the money that the WMF has collected from
donors.
I believe we have a responsibility to treat our donor's contributions
with
> respect and care. I don't think that 70k Euro is peanuts, and rarely
you
will find
any foundation or NGO considering such an amount to be
insignificant.
best,
dariusz
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