Hoi,
The French Wikipedia may pre-date the WMF but the hosting of the French
Wikipedia has always been done by the WMF. So your argument is a bit flaky.
Thanks,
GerardM
2009/2/19 Mark Williamson <node.ue(a)gmail.com>
The French Wikipedia wasn't created by the
Foundation.
skype: node.ue
2009/2/18 basedrop <basedrop(a)gmail.com>om>:
Hello Thomas and thanks for your response.
I would point out that the foundation created a French version, hosted
it
on French servers, in the French language because
they saw the benefit of
delivering something to a specific constituency.
I don't have a particular need to have the art history portion of the
wiki
editable for my users at my domain. I have the
specialized users at my
site, I'd like to take advantage of that aggregation of specialized
users
to the benefit of the wiki. If you guys
don't have an API for me, I'm
o.k. with that.
Web content is becoming more integrated across multiple platforms and
domains. People can post to Facebook from twitter. People can check
Gmail
from POP3 clients. People can post to a blog,
and the data will
instantly
replicate over multiple blogs around the world.
I can pull data from
multiple sources and aggregate it with an rss feed reader. This is the
direction content and the web is heading.
Bring the users to one domain, and keep the content within that domain
can
be called the "walled garden" approach.
It is not a bad one, when you
have
a need to control the users (e.g. facebook,) and
the content. In the
case
of the wiki, I'd suggest a more democratic
approach of bringing the wiki
to
the people. You already do that with a push
version of the wiki, I'm
just
suggesting you take it one step further and make
it editable. Imagine
sections of the wiki, right where the experts are aggregated.
Space.com
hosting a concurrent version of the astronomy
section. Technology at
slashdot.org. Law at
nolo.com... you get the drift.
You guys consider this. In the mean time I'll build up my site and my
user
base. If there is a way to integrate in the
future, I'll do that. I'm
going to shoot for using openID, so this is just another reason for you
guys
to consider the use of openID as well.
Michael
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2009/2/18 basedrop <basedrop(a)gmail.com>om>:
>
> Hello,
> I'm not sure if this is the place to pose this question, if not could
you
respond
with the proper place.
I'm building out a social networking site centered around an "art" and
"arthistory" theme. I would like to display a real time dynamic version
of
the arthistory section of the wikipedia at my
domain.
Possible, but unlikely to happen, I'm afraid. There is little to be
gained for us compared to you just sending people to the main site.
I would like for my
users to be able to edit this section at my domain.
I don't think that's possible - at best all the edits would be from a
single account, and we don't really like group accounts.
> My domain is
>
arthistory.com. I am hoping to be able to provide a lot of acedemic
and
specialty
users to this section via my site. I think we could both
benefit
from this relationship. My users have direct
access to the arthistory
section of wikipedia, the wikipedia gets access to my users who are
experts
in the field.
We would very much like to encourage your users to edit Wikipedia, but
it really would be much easier for us if they just came to our site.
Is there some reason why they particularly need to be doing it from
your site?
I understand you can get a feed of the
wikipedia, and also
a database dump, but I'm looking for a more real time and dynamic
connection (without just putting the wikipedia in an iframe.)
I don't know of anything like that being done before. If it's just one
section of the site you could probably mirror it pretty well by
crawling it once a day or so - we don't like people crawling the whole
site, but one section shouldn't be a problem. If you want it
completely up-to-date then you need to access the Wikipedia servers
for each request, so you might as well just be on
wikipedia.org
> I'd also
> prefer if I could use openID or some way of repurposing my user's
> registration to duel register with my site and with wikipedia, and
create
a
login session for both simultaneously.
I'm sorry, we don't use openID on Wikipedia. It has been suggested,
and it's possible we will in the future, but we don't right now.
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