Certainly, any "database rights" should already be considered waived by the
CC license, so I fail to see the problem here.
Todd
On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 9:12 AM Strainu <strainu10(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you Andreas, that was exactly what I was looking
for. Everybody
seems to agree there is more and more CC4 content out there, but
apparently not enough to justify the investment. Hopefully the
foundation will be able to provide more details and maybe a roadmap
for the following fiscal year.
Strainu
P.S. I just hope that we're not pushing technical debt along with this
project.
În mie., 20 oct. 2021 la 17:26, Andreas Kolbe <jayen466(a)gmail.com> a
scris:
The question about CC 4.0 was just answered in the "Conversation with
the
Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees". This link will take you to the
right place:
https://youtu.be/Zpof5J6jjZ4?t=3738
Database rights were mentioned in the answers, along with challenging,
unforeseen
technical requirements that would require more money, more
effort and more technical development work to address than was originally
anticipated. As a result, moving to 4.0 is not something the Foundation can
commit to doing right now.
The question came up because the UN is apparently close to adopting CC
4.0 for its
content.
Andreas
On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 9:01 AM Andreas Kolbe <jayen466(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> See also
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_use/Creative_Commons_4.0/Diff
>
> The proposed waiver of database rights that was to accompany the move
from 3.0
to 4.0 was one of the sticking points, I believe. To quote:
>
> Where you own Sui Generis Database Rights covered by CC BY-SA 4.0, you
waive
these rights. As an example, this means facts you contribute to the
projects may be reused freely without attribution.
>
> For further background see
>
>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_use/Creative_Commons_4.0/Legal_not…
>
> Andreas
>
> On Thursday, September 30, 2021, Strainu <strainu10(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Isaac,
>>
>> See
https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_use/Creative_Commons_4.0
>>
>> Strainu
>>
>> Pe joi, 30 septembrie 2021, Isaac Olatunde <reachout2isaac(a)gmail.com>
a scris:
>> > Hi Strainu,
>> > I can't find the previous discussions.Could you please provide a
link to the public consultations (or proposal) you mentioned to allow
people on this list have a clear understanding of what was discussed?
>> > Best regards
>> > Isaac
>> > On Wed, 29 Sep 2021, 23:22 Strainu, <strainu10(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> A few years ago there was a public consultation on moving the
Wikimedia license to cc-by-sa-4.0 instead of 3.0. Now, obviously that never
happened but I couldn't find the decision documented anywhere. Why was the
proposal scrapped? Are there any plans to revisit this?
>> >>
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