That's great!
Pending for translation.
2015-03-10 10:21 GMT-06:00 Pete Forsyth <peteforsyth(a)gmail.com>om>:
There's a relevant research project outlined on
Meta, about HTTPS:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Wikimedia_referrer_policy
Here's the "nutshell" description:
"Since we started switching to HTTPS and an increasing portion of inbound
traffic happens over SSL, Wikimedia sites stopped advertising themselves as
sources of referred traffic to external sites. While this is a literal
implication of HTTPS, it means that Wikimedia's impact on traffic directed
to other sites is becoming largely invisible: *is Wikimedia turning into a
large source of dark traffic?* I review a use case (traffic directed to
CrossRef) and discuss how other top web properties deal with this issue by
adopting a so-called "Referrer Policy"."
I don't know anything about this beyond what I've read on Meta, but I think
it offers some useful background for this discussion.
Pete
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On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Andrew Lih <andrew.lih(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Probably a good time for everyone to know about
EFF's HTTPS Everywhere:
HTTPS Everywhere is a Firefox, Chrome, and Opera extension that encrypts
your communications with many major websites, making your browsing more
secure. Encrypt the web: Install HTTPS Everywhere today.
https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Johan Jönsson <brevlistor(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
2015-03-10 13:26 GMT+01:00 Comet styles
<cometstyles(a)gmail.com>om>:
for an organization taking on the NSA for
"spying"..why are we using
https? doesn't that show that we are already scared of them and
running with our tail between our legs?
(For non-technical readers: the HTTP protocol is the normal way to send
around information on the web. HTTPS is the secure way of sending said
information, adding encryption among other things, to avoid
eavesdropping.)
>
> HTTP traffic can easily be tracked by people sharing the same network,
by
your
Internet service provider and so on. If one cares about privacy,
HTTPS
is always important. It's worth noting that
the NSA is not the only
government agency in the world. I'd be even more worried about a number
of
> countries where there would be little chance to fight the intruding
party
in the
courtroom.
Side note: you could probably track most HTTPS traffic to Wikipedia as
well, even if you're not the NSA. Normally you would see that the user
has
> accessed Wikipedia, but not which article. A way around that would be
to
byte
> size of Wikipedia articles, which should be
individual enough as soon
as
> images are involved and compare it to the
size of the page the user
just
> accessed. If two articles happen to be of
exactly the same size,
compare
with
incoming and outgoing wiki links and see if the user accessed any
page
> linking to or linked from one the articles to determine which one. But
it
would at
least take some sort of effort, and wouldn't be perfect.
//Johan Jönsson
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