Getting the dreaded community consensus for useful features and fixes is indeed a painful experience and i'm not joking.
One way to counter it is to present the communities with results of research that has been conducted and shown that these features actually achieve something positive.
Was such research conducted about WikiLove?
2011/10/29 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com:
Hoi, Given that the English Wikipedia has a problem, its page views is going down for instance, there is a well documented division between the oldies and the newbies. There is a natural attrition as well as open conflict resulting in their being not as many editors as there used to be.
Wikilove, the dashboard are all mechanisms to show appreciation and learn from newbies. This functionality is developed with the English Wikipedia in mind.
My question what is the point in stagnating in old functionality when the established community is to approve new features especially new features not addressing the needs of the established community and seeking consensus only once these features have been developed?
With respect, these features are introduced, experience is gained and consequently these features will be adapted. Does constant community consensus make sense and if so what is it that you hope to achieve? How is a no going to help given the need for a more healthy English community ? Thanks, GerardM
On 29 October 2011 14:49, WereSpielChequers werespielchequers@gmail.comwrote:
Message: 1 Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 15:31:07 -0700 From: Brandon Harris bharris@wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] On certain shallow, American-centered, foolish software initiatives backed by WMF To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: 4EAB2D2B.3020803@wikimedia.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
On 10/28/11 3:27 PM, Etienne Beaule wrote:
It's disabled on certain wikis because of technical problems.
Oh? I wasn't aware that it had been disabled anywhere as yet.
WikiLove was not rolled out "en mass"; the policy for deployment
of
the tool is that it is by request only, and the requesting wiki must:
a) Make sure the tool is localized (via TranslateWiki); b) Make sure they have a local configuration; and c) Show community consensus.
So if it was enabled and then *disabled*, I have not heard of
this.
Is there a bug report I can look to? Or if you know of a wiki where this is the case, I can do a search.
Thanks!
-b.
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Good to hear that wikilove is only going in on wikis where there is consensus for it. Can anyone give me a link to the discussion that established consensus on EN wikipedia? The nearest I could find was
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28miscellaneous%29/Arch...
Ta
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