Getting the dreaded community consensus for useful features and fixes
is indeed a painful experience and i'm not joking.
One way to counter it is to present the communities with results of
research that has been conducted and shown that these features
actually achieve something positive.
Was such research conducted about WikiLove?
2011/10/29 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>om>:
Given that the English Wikipedia has a problem, its page views is going
down for instance, there is a well documented division between the oldies
and the newbies. There is a natural attrition as well as open conflict
resulting in their being not as many editors as there used to be.
Wikilove, the dashboard are all mechanisms to show appreciation and learn
from newbies. This functionality is developed with the English Wikipedia in
My question what is the point in stagnating in old functionality when the
established community is to approve new features especially new features
not addressing the needs of the established community and seeking consensus
only once these features have been developed?
With respect, these features are introduced, experience is gained and
consequently these features will be adapted. Does constant community
consensus make sense and if so what is it that you hope to achieve? How is
a no going to help given the need for a more healthy English community ?
On 29 October 2011 14:49, WereSpielChequers <werespielchequers(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 15:31:07 -0700
From: Brandon Harris <bharris(a)wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] On certain shallow, American-centered,
foolish software initiatives backed by WMF
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On 10/28/11 3:27 PM, Etienne Beaule wrote:
It's disabled on certain wikis because of
Oh? I wasn't aware that it had been disabled anywhere as yet.
WikiLove was not rolled out "en mass"; the policy for deployment
tool is that it is by request only, and the requesting wiki must:
a) Make sure the tool is localized (via TranslateWiki);
b) Make sure they have a local configuration; and
c) Show community consensus.
So if it was enabled and then *disabled*, I have not heard of
there a bug report I can look to? Or if you know of a wiki where this
is the case, I can do a search.
Brandon Harris, Senior Designer, Wikimedia Foundation
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Good to hear that wikilove is only going in on wikis where there is
consensus for it. Can anyone give me a link to the discussion that
established consensus on EN wikipedia? The nearest I could find was
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