What happens now is that policies from enwiki is adopted "as is", but a lot of the rules enwiki does not make sense at all.
On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 12:24 AM, Jean-Philippe Béland <jpbeland@wikimedia.ca
wrote:
I oppose to that. Like that communities with bigger number, i.e. English, will impose their rules to other communities. It's a basic fundamental principle of Wikimedia projects since the beginning that every community is independant,
JP
On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 6:19 PM John Erling Blad jeblad@gmail.com wrote:
I wonder if deviation away from a central core policy should be banned. That view is probably not very popular.
Jeblad
On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 4:39 PM, Gnangarra gnangarra@gmail.com wrote:
its nice idea most just usurp the english policies to start with anyway when they need it so having a base line on meta would be good though probably it would best to have it set up automatically in the incubator stage so that they get moved across when the projects takes the big
leap
forward and the community that develops the project can develop these policies as they grow. It also means that as part of the jump these
pages
will need to have been translated as well.
note I'm currently involved with a wikipedia in the the incubator
On 2 August 2017 at 22:29, Tito Dutta trulytito@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, Some works and study was done for Indic Wikimedia projects (there are
24
communities) after a detailed consultation and needs-assessment,
please
see: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Indic_Wikipedia_ Policies_and_Guidelines_Handbook.pdf There are three types of issues: a) Localizing policies (translating is not the only way, but
localizing
keeping a project in mind) b) Enforce them c) For smaller communities having a group of editors working on these
Thanks Tito Dutta Note: If I don't reply to your email in 2 days, please feel free to
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On 2 August 2017 at 19:35, John Erling Blad jeblad@gmail.com
wrote:
Nearly all Wikipedia projects has virtually the same core content
policies,
but with slightly different wording. Nearly all, because a lot of
the
smaller lacks them, and a lot has outdated or only partial
policies.
It
takes a lot of time to actually make them and keep them updated.
Creating and maintaining the core content policies should not be
something
that small projects should invest a lot of time in, they should
simply
be
able to point to existing policies on Meta. The central policies
should
be
localized if necessary.
Checking Meta I find
- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_no_original_research_policy
- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Neutral_point_of_view
I can't find anything like "Verifiability".
Would it be possible for Wikimedia Foundation to make some sound
baseline
policies, and with the option for local projects to refine those?
Perhaps
with assistance from editors on Wikipedia?
Lets try to make the policies accurate, without "no original
research"
diverging into verifiability of external sources. It should be
about
original research in content on Wikipedia. Likewise, at some
projects
neutral point of view has become "do not diverge from creators
point
of
view"…
Would this be possible? It would be really nice if those baseline
policies
pages could be copied to the individual projects like central user
pages,
so they would be "internal" to the projects. Thus the projects
would
have
more "ownership" of them.
The same thing apply to other meta projects (Wikipedia, Wikibooks, Wiktionary, etc).
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