I'm listening to this, and thank you all. I'll try to be less ... whatever that is I'm being. I do know what you mean, and I'll tone it down. Oliver, I had/have no intention of minimising the hurt felt by those involved. I apologise if I gave that impression. But some of those hurt people have been dishing out - en masse - a world of pain, themselves. I understand the dynamic at play here.
In my defence - though I know it's no justification - I'm deeply affronted by what's been happening here and, especially, on WW. I see its provenance - the almost inevitability of it, given a hands-off (read that as slow, ineffectual, irresponsible, mostly stupid and arrogant) board. But still, this has been just awful to watch, and the behaviour of some here and elsewhere has been truly, truly trashy.
I shall try to improve my game.
PS:
That's the first time I've ever made public a private email. Literally. Ever. I assume it will be the last. That kind of thing, bullying people into silence, quietly, off-list, is IMNSHO, poor behaviour, billinghurst.
Anthony Cole
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Benjamin Lees emufarmers@gmail.com wrote:
Someone complained to you off-list about the amount you're posting to the list. You immediately forwarded his email to the list. Is this the best approach?
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 12:13 AM, Anthony Cole ahcoleecu@gmail.com wrote:
I thought I was bringing a sorely under-represented perspective to the ED discussion on this list and wasn't aware I'd said or done anything inappropriate here.
Well, Oliver Keyes said, 3 days ago:
Speaking as both a volunteer and staff, Anthony, I have found your attitude in this conversation and others on the subject to be deeply unproductive. It would be good if you spent more time asking questions and less time dismissing people's concerns.
For my part, I think it's inappropriate to, for example, take someone's statement: "I restrained from expressing publicly any issues I might have with your own performance; I would love you to not spread covert allegations on my performace and professional attitude" and proceed to "it is used as proof she's "literally Hitler"." My guidance would be to think carefully about the way you're responding to others and whether you would like to be responded to in that way.
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