Hello,
Birgitte SB wrote:
As I said before [1], stewards should be allowed to
opt-in the wiki's with no community. Disscussions
only need to happen if there is an active community.
I also don't mind opt-out if everyone gets
comprehensible notification about the system and how
to opt-out.
If the stewards would be able to decide themselves to opt-in a wiki
without community approval, then this is quite the same as the opt-out
proposal by Lodewijk.
IMHO, when this system is technically ready, there should be a
discussion in each wiki which has a community, at least to inform the
wiki that
1. the new feature exists,
2. the wiki has the choice to opt-in or -out.
Now if no community is able to take such a decision, and the stewards
take it for them, your proposition is quite the same as Lodewijk's. It
only gives more power to stewards, which they should not have.
Regards,
Yann
The idea that people check the wiki's block logs
on a
regular basis and would even know what such block
would signify if they saw them is unreasonable. The
only time people completely uniformed about this
system are going to discover it, is when they are
already experiencing a problem. And they will
speculate amoung themselves about what these blocks
mean and come up some strange bad faith ideas. And
once they are alll worked up about this, they will
confront the stewards with these bad faith
accusations. And it will be quite hard to explain
things to them at that time. Do none of you remember
all the other times we have been through situations
like this?
The recent messages on this thread show that those
responding to me are twisting what I say without even
considering the compromises I suggest. So I am done
commenting on this. Just don't pretend I was
suggesting something as foolish as a wiki with no
community come to a local consensus on opting in,
because I was not.
Birgitte SB
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