Hello,
Birgitte SB wrote:
As I said before [1], stewards should be allowed to opt-in the wiki's with no community. Disscussions only need to happen if there is an active community. I also don't mind opt-out if everyone gets comprehensible notification about the system and how to opt-out.
If the stewards would be able to decide themselves to opt-in a wiki without community approval, then this is quite the same as the opt-out proposal by Lodewijk.
IMHO, when this system is technically ready, there should be a discussion in each wiki which has a community, at least to inform the wiki that 1. the new feature exists, 2. the wiki has the choice to opt-in or -out. Now if no community is able to take such a decision, and the stewards take it for them, your proposition is quite the same as Lodewijk's. It only gives more power to stewards, which they should not have.
Regards,
Yann
The idea that people check the wiki's block logs on a regular basis and would even know what such block would signify if they saw them is unreasonable. The only time people completely uniformed about this system are going to discover it, is when they are already experiencing a problem. And they will speculate amoung themselves about what these blocks mean and come up some strange bad faith ideas. And once they are alll worked up about this, they will confront the stewards with these bad faith accusations. And it will be quite hard to explain things to them at that time. Do none of you remember all the other times we have been through situations like this?
The recent messages on this thread show that those responding to me are twisting what I say without even considering the compromises I suggest. So I am done commenting on this. Just don't pretend I was suggesting something as foolish as a wiki with no community come to a local consensus on opting in, because I was not.
Birgitte SB