Yeah, we've seen from the branding fiasco just how much the imperial
overlords deign to respect the opinions of the peasants.
The only tiniest shred of direct accountability on the board, the community
board elections, have been scuttled for Very Convenient Reasons.
The model is terribly broken and nobody should provide any support,
financial or otherwise, to the WMF in its current incarnation.
On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 2:42 PM Isaac Olatunde <reachout2isaac(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hello Dan,
You are allowed to offer an opinion but I Honestly think that's better and
more useful on the Draft talk page.
That being said, by "effective vote or representation in the proceedings",
you probably expected a different model where different language
Wikip(m)edia community would be represented or vote on weather to have a
UCoC.
The current model isn't bad. I do think we should review the draft and if
there are specific wording we disagree with, we can either suggest
improvement or removal altogether. I honestly think we need to help and
support the drafting committee at this stage.
Regards
Isaac
On Tue, 8 Sep 2020, 19:25 Dan Szymborski, <dszymborski(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I'm also perfectly free to express to the IRS
that I'd really like to
get a
$10 million check from them at tax time. The
ability to offer an opinion
on
proceedings with no effective vote or
representation in the proceedings
is
about as good as a fart in the wind. I'd
prefer the WMF keep its
flatulence
to itself.
On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 2:17 PM Isaac Olatunde <reachout2isaac(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> On the contrary, I do not think this is an imposition by the Board or
WMF
> as we are allowed to comment on the draft,
and suggest improvement.
>
> I have been following the process closely and I do not see anything
that
> looks like an "imposition"
>
> The Universal Code of Conduct is not a substitute to the existing
policy
or
guidelines but a behavioural guidelines expected
of users in any
Wikimedia
> project.
>
> Regards
>
> Isaac
>
>
> On Tue, 8 Sep 2020, 16:11 Dan Szymborski, <dszymborski(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> As this is being explicitly imposed by the board from above without
> community approval, participating in any way is ethically unsound.
Doubly
> > so without a board election preceding this as the WMF has arbitrarily
> > denied communities the right, as manifested in the election of the
> > community seats, to voice their opinions of actions that WMF has
taken
> over
> > the last 18 months. A collaborative process is a collaborative
process
when
> it's actually a collaborative process, not just when it's called one.
>
> The best use of time at this point is to organize the communities to
use
> every means at its disposal to resist such
an imposition.
>
> On Mon, Sep 7, 2020 at 4:18 PM Patrick Earley <pearley(a)wikimedia.org
> wrote:
>
> > Hello, everyone.
> >
> > We are excited to share a draft of the Universal Code of Conduct
> > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct>, which
the
>
Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees called for earlier this year
> <
>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/May_…
> >
>,
> > for your review and feedback. The discussion will be open until
October
6,
> 2020.
>
> The UCoC Drafting Committee
> <
>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Drafting_committee
> > > >wants
> > > to learn which parts of the draft would present challenges for you
or
>
your
> > work. What is missing from this draft? What do you like, and what
could
be
> improved?
>
>
> Many thanks to the Committee, and everyone who has helped with
translations
> so far.
>
>
> Please join the conversation
> <
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Draft_review
> > > and share this email with others who may be interested to join,
too.
>
>
> > To learn more about the UCoC project, see the Universal Code of
Conduct
> > > page
> > > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct>, and
the
> FAQ
> > > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/FAQ>,
on
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/May_…
> > >
> > > [3]
> >
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Draft_review
> >
[4]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/FAQ
> >
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