I'm not fighting against anybody here, I'm just defending myself and moving forward keeping my ideas and our projects running as I proposed to do during and after the Brazilian Catalyst Program!
As a good Petyr Baelish, I'm just trying to keep my head connected to my neck :-)
Best regards, good to see you around :-)
Rodrigo Padula Coordenador de Projetos Grupo Wikimedia Brasileiro de Educação e Pesquisa http://www.wikimedia.org.br 21 99326-0558
---- Em Sáb, 31 Out 2015 18:13:23 -0200 Luiz Augusto<lugusto@gmail.com> escreveu ----
On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 1:15 PM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton < rodrigo.argenton@gmail.com> wrote:
> (...) > > [5]some samples of local community interacting with Padula's "ideas": > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Brazilian_Group_of_Education_... > https://br.wikimedia.org/wiki/Usu%C3%A1rio_Discuss%C3%A3o:Rodrigo_Padula > follow the thread: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediabr-l/2014-August/015754.html > > Since R-Argenton provided some messages written by me in public opposition against R-Padula in the past year, let's me write few lines updating the subject.
R-Padula acted in many disruptive ways in a very complex Game of Thrones WMF edition that ended in project results and partial lost of community interest. Emphasis on partial. I'll explain it in another point of this message. Let's say that R-Padula is our local Petyr Baelish.
R-Argenton for years is behind brazilian volunteers most of time on yet more disruptive ways plus doing almost nothing on online projects or even on outreach activities. Argenton may replies to it as "because I'm blocked!" and I leaves to those who may be interested to think for the reasons a community will choose to block a very experienced contributor.
Please don't read this as I advocating for Padula. Quite the opposite, I'm only suggesting to ignore the bad mood from Argenton and really focus on measurements and governance points proposed by Fæ.
Time to write few lines about the "partial lost of community interest" point.
The now defunct Programa Catalisador do Brasil revealed the bad side of some people (R-Argenton excluded from this, at least) and created a very interesting GoT WMF remix that ended in many political fights exactly as on the HBO series. But the community members where all benevolent zombies, sometimes attending events, but most of time doing nothing. Nothing at all.
I personally leaved any attempt to do 'real-world' things after the renew of Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil (not to be confused with the UG that R-Padula is the leader). As far I can see, the last action of that UG was to get renewed and eventually being present on Wikimania... Well, I *really* don't want to say any more on this UG.
My current involvement to WMF is only to do random things on Wikisource and Wikidata as I can do random things on any website, without further interest. Not only due to the GoT WMF.br remixed edition, but also for many issues on a more global level (WMF is constantly contracting new staff and their servers are most unstable than back in 2004-2005... Only in sake of example, since there are REALLY many issues, T71311 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T71311%3E;, a huge data loss, is still unsolved most due to the laziness of the involved staff while in any normal entity it may result in an entire team working until solve it... should I do anything on governance issues related to resources allocated to Brazil while in the meantime the WMF is doing anything on their own governance, only spending money on fees until gets bankrupt and with all data lost forever in a huge bug not so hypothetical as many of you think? Not ever). So, please, don't refer anymore to any past message written by me, R-Argenton and any other portuguese-speaking person.
If the money collected by the WMF is bad spent in Brazil maybe is because the WMF is entirely at this moment only bad spending their resources. So there is no need to demonize R-Padula, since the entire WMF should stop in different ways to reinvent the wheel and start producting things that uses wheels.
Beijos, não me liga*, [[User:555]] --- * a quite old meme from Brazil _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>