[Wikimedia-l] Re: Osama and Ziyad

Dear WMF Human Rights Team: I would like some clarification on your statement below. In particular, does your stated approach allow you to follow the best practices described at https://freedomhouse.org/2023/summit-for-democracy-political-prisoners to, e.g., "meet regularly with family members of political prisoners, advocacy groups, and media outlets and journalists, in public and in private, in their efforts to secure an individual’s release"? The literature review at https://opendocs.ids.ac.uk/opendocs/handle/20.500.12413/17277 states: "The theoretical and empirical literature attributes several potential roles to civil society in [security sector and justice reform]. These include making security and justice institutions accountable, mobilising a range of social groups for reform, publicising abuses and advocating for reform, offering technical expertise, and improving security-citizen relations." If the Foundation staff has prohibited itself from engaging with the public on freeing jailed wikipedians, orchestrating letter writing campaigns, or coordinating with other NGOs and government agencies, such as those Andreas has described as having no record of the imprisoned Arabic Wikipedia administrators, then I would hope that the CEO or Trustees would step in immediately to rectify any internal policies such that best practices can be upheld. -LW On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 3:51 PM WMF Human Rights <talktohumanrights(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: the safety of our community members, the Foundation will not publicly disclose details regarding human rights cases. The Human Rights Team recently updated its meta page to clarify this approach. Our primary concern is to uphold the safety and privacy of everyone involved. At the same time, our inability to discuss these matters should not be read as inaction. We care deeply about volunteer safety and our role, more generally, involves different levels of internal support, wider advocacy and partnerships with others depending on the circumstances of an event. Wikimedians, be it liaising with international or regional human rights organisations, the US State Department, briefing journalists so the wider public is aware of the situation, or anything else to make sure Osama and Ziyad aren't forgotten about as they start (by my calculation) their fourth year in jail? year do not seem to have led to any significant coverage of the two Wikimedians' plight on the websites of major human rights organisations. (If I have missed any, please let me know.) Borders. Similarly, the most recent Amnesty International report on the "crackdown on online expression" in Saudi Arabia includes several mentions of Twitter users but none of Wikipedians: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/02/saudi-arabia-alarming-crackd… sentenced for supporting women's rights activist Loujain al-Hathloul but fails to mention that one of the jailed Wikimedians uploaded Loujain al-Hathloul's Commons picture, which is used in her Wikipedia articles. Wikimedians in Saudi Arabia on the website of the EFF. Wikipedians on the PEN website: published in March 2023, includes a mention of Osama's 32-year prison sentence, but doesn't make clear that he was jailed for being a Wikipedian, and Ziyad is not mentioned: https://www.state.gov/reports/2022-country-reports-on-human-rights-practice… report? I think each country report covers the period up to October of the preceding year, so this month will be the last chance to make sure the 2023 report published next spring will include information on Osama and Ziyad's prison sentences and their Wikipedia activity. >> >> Andreas >> >> On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 11:09 PM The Cunctator <cunctator(a)gmail.com> wrote: wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: public mailing list would do more harm than good. Thank you. jayen466(a)gmail.com> Folgendes geschrieben: the Media" in the current Signpost issue) – does the WMF's Human Rights Team (cc'ed) have any update on their situation? married not long before being jailed in 2020 – has anyone been in touch with his wife? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_imprisoned_for_editing_Wikiped… guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org… >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-leave(a)lists.wikimedia.org guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org… guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org… at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org… _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l Public archives at https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org… To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-leave(a)lists.wikimedia.org