On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Tomasz Ganicz polimerek@gmail.com wrote:
2010/11/12 John Vandenberg jayvdb@gmail.com:
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 8:13 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi, Providing help to an organisation that can be considered part of the Wikimedia movement makes sense. The issue with Citizendium is that they explicitly distance themselves from many of the basic corner stones of what has made Wikipedia what it is.
Which cornerstone is that?
I think the most serious problem with them is that they do not follow NPOV. Instead they follow a kind of biased-sympathetic-expert-POV.
Is that systematic, symptomatic or merely evidenced in a small set of articles?
I've seen lots of people point out specific problems with their content, but we have many problem articles too.
Anyway, I think it is worth helping Citzendium, but in a way to leave their editorial policy freedom and clearly state, that they are not going to be Wikimedia project, but they are a different approach, interesting but not in line with some of our basic values such as "anyone can edit on equal base" and "NPOV".
I agree with everything except whether or not they are in line with our basic values. They may not align with Wikipedia's values, but as a separate project they dont need to be; instead they need to fit within the core values that all our projects have in common.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Values http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Values
-- John Vandenberg