In all honesty, this should not have been directed at Samir. I do not think
he has the authority to stop the process. And whoever has probably spends
more time in Twitter that in Wikimedia projects.
Best
Yaroslav
On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 11:12 AM Tito Dutta <trulytito(a)gmail.com> wrote:
There is something called [[WP:IDHT,]] i.e. I
didn't hear that.
No matter how many times, how many people (90% in the RFC) speak, I just
didn't hear that.
Kind regards,
(Comment in personal capacity)
Thanks
On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 at 00:15, Samir Elsharbaty <selsharbaty(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
Hi All,
We wanted to follow up with a brief update on the project timeline and
share an invitation to join an event this month.
We know there continues to be so much uncertainty in the world, so we are
slowing down the process of the project. Big changes are happening to all
of us these days. We want to make sure that we respect the time and
priorities of the project collaborators. This means updating the project
timeline approach to have more flexibility for participants and smaller
time commitments [1], revising the project schedule month by month and
keeping the Brand Network [2] and other participants informed on a more
regular basis with any updates and changes. The naming discussions
planned
for April are now pushed to May, at the earliest.
Design proposals are
likewise shifted +4 weeks.
But we do have things to share:
*This month: live brand concept presentation!*
To honor, celebrate, and conclude the work around the concepts referred
to
in Essie’s email above [3], Snohetta and the
Brand Project team will
present the Unified Concept LIVE on 16 April, 15:00 - 16:00 GMT. Snøhetta
will explain how they used the ideas, feedback and conceptual models from
the workshops and online exercises to arrive at a final, unified concept.
This unified concept will be the foundation for the upcoming work around
the naming conventions, visual decisions, and the overall design system.
The session will also be recorded and made available for viewing after.
You
can join us using these links. [4] Note: this is
not a presentation of a
proposal for a naming convention or design.
Thank you!
Samir and the brand project team
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_moveme…
[2]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Brand_Network
[3]
https://brandingwikipedia.org/concepts/
[4] Join via Zoom:
https://wikimedia.zoom.us/j/769565325
Steam via Youtube Live:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS72O6Si94Q
Samir Elsharbaty (he/him)
Community Brand and Marketing coordinator
Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>
On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 10:32 AM David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> The article itself is spammy brochure-style nonsense, and this is even
> after some cleanup. Editorial eyes welcomed.
>
>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sn%C3%B8hetta_(company)
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sn%C3%B8hetta_%28company%29>
- d.
On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 23:16, Samir Elsharbaty
<selsharbaty(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> The Brand Project Team felt it was important to address the concerns
and
> > questions around Snøhetta and the English Wikipedia, and have now
added
an
> FAQ about it. [1] Please refer there for the full details about the
block
> > and what is being done. The project team is in the process of
updating
the
> project materials, including the FAQ, so feel free to add those pages
to
> > your watchlist to stay up to date on the latest information.
> >
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Samir
> >
> > [1]
https://w.wiki/LEF
> >
> > Samir Elsharbaty (he/him)
> >
> > Community Brand and Marketing coordinator
> >
> > Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 4:43 AM Gnangarra <gnangarra(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> >
> > > This does have feeling of a company creating a financial
relationship
with
> > the Foundation as way to bypass or backdoor a community ban thats
been
> > reviewed already. Over the years
I've worked with many users who
been
> > > blocked and help them become productive contributors but before
they
> start
> > > making recommendation or decisions about who we are there needs to
be
> > > something done to get them back to
good standing with the community
> first
> > > untiil thats taken place. It's like asking the fox to rebuild
the
> hen
> > > house, I just dont see how I could support anything they
recommend.
> > >
> > > After the dollars, and t=volunteer time that has been pumped into
the
2030
> > strategy shouldnt we already know who we are, as it is that should
have
> > been the key starting point for a
strategy process. Its
comprehensible
not
> > to have known or explored that before deciding where, how, why we
will
be
> > doing anything for the next 10 years.
> >
> > On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 at 03:20, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> > Particularly as they've demonstrated by their actions an
unwillingness
> > to work with Wikipedia properly:
> >
> >
> >
>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Archi…
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > - d.
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 at 04:34, Peter Southwood
> > > > <peter.southwood(a)telkomsa.net> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I would agree with this in principle. From what I have seen so
> far, it
> > > > looks like either Snøhetta have not done their homework on how we
> > > operate,
> > > > or they have the arrogance of PR agencies, don't care, and plan
to
> spin
> > > > their way through with smoke and mirrors, flashy pages with lots
of
buzz,
> > little content and all the dialogue
they can't avoid. Maybe I am
wrong,
> and
> > they have just been badly briefed. Who can tell from the outside?
Block
> > > evasion does not bode well for their understanding of the
community.
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Peter
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:
wikimedia-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org]
On
> > > Behalf Of Pine W
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 13, 2020 8:13 PM
> > > > To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> > > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Brand Project: Who are we as a
movement?
> > > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > First, a disclaimer that these comments aren't directed
personally
> at
> > > > > you, Essie.
> > > > >
> > > > > Even if money was unlimited, I thought that Snøhetta deserved
the
> > > > > community's trust,
and I felt that WMF was a good steward of
> resources
> > > > > (all of which are questionable), I don't think that this
project
> is a
> > > > > good idea. Wikidata is an increasingly important component of
the
> > > Wikiverse, and there are a some
problems with WMF rebranding
itself as
> > > > the Wikipedia Foundation including the risk to the communities
and
> > > > > affiliates from WMF's political adventures, governance
problems,
> and
> > > > > occasional high profile clashes with the community. I don't
think
that
> > > > the costs or the risks here make sense, I wouldn't involve
Snøhetta
> >
> given its apparent block evasion on English Wikipedia, and I've
been
> > > > unimpressed with WMF's handling of this process during the past
few
> >
> months.
> > >
> > > I am fine with discussions about branding, but not with this
program
> > > in its current form.
> > >
> > > Given the choice, I would freeze this project and spending
associated
> > > with it pending a Meta RfC
regarding the community's view on
whether
> > > this project should continue. If
the community wants a branding
> > > project to continue, I would let the community decide on the
project's
> > > parameters and budget, and what if
any consultant should be
involved.
> > >
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> > > (
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