I should make the disclaimer that all of my opinions expressed on this
list are as a community member rather than a WMF employee. I have no
official involvement in the current study or any decision making power
thereof. I just code donation banners :)
Ryan Kaldari
On 7/26/10 2:14 PM, Ryan Kaldari wrote:
I don't think using an illustration of Bukake
rather than a photo is a
"failure of neutrality", but perhaps we'll have to agree to disagree on
that. Regardless, as a global project, we need to seriously consider
what steps we can take to accommodate cultures very different from our
own, while still retaining the openness and comprehensiveness that make
our project so successful as an educational resource and collaborative
project. If that means we let some people filter what they see on
Wikipedia, so be it. And if it means banning Goatse from the Main Page,
I'm not going to complain. Obviously we must defend Wikipedia against
real censorship threats (deleting religious imagery, whitewashing
political scandals, DMCA abuses, etc.), but I don't see anything
threatening about Mr. Harris evaluating the issues, or people discussing
ideas for filtering technology. I think we're pretty far away from the
edge of the "slippery slope", but if that changes, I'll be right there
with you defending the integrity of the project.
Ryan Kaldari
On 7/26/10 12:39 PM, David Gerard wrote:
On 26 July 2010 20:08, Ryan
Kaldari<rkaldari(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
failure
offer filtering. Frankly, we're already
filtering content, even on
en.wiki, but only according to a "default" Western/American POV. We use
line drawings instead of photos in articles on sex positions.
And this was a defective compromise with pushers of the censored POV
at the time, so using it as a reason for more is the begging the
question fallacy.
Wikimedia's bias is to NPOV and the sum of the world's knowledge.
Deliberately restricting that by default is a violation, on the face
of it. Apart from using past failures as justification for future
failures, do you have a proposal to address the problem of prior
default filtering as a failure of neutrality in a manner that shows
understanding of why this is a problem?
- d.
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