The problem is, that, some people here in ML, said that we can't use not
free images. A picture that is PD only in the italian territory is, for some
persons that have writed here, not free. The only thing that is important to
me is the equity by the different language projects. If en.wiki can use the
fair use images (that are not free) we must can use the "authorized" images
and the CC-NC.
Senpai
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From: "Ray Saintonge" <saintonge(a)telus.net>
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Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 2:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Board meeting in Rotterdam later this week
senpai wrote:
May be they cant' be so much thing in other
country... but they can be in
italy. I don't know if u know well or not the basics rules of procedural
penal "civil law" system. In genral... if an italian people upload some
images (like the one that u have take for the example) on commons, and
that
images must have an authorization, is not important if the commons servers
are in florida or in italy or in another country, the italian people is
under the italian penal law. Idem if an american people upload that images
on commons and an italian people use this images.... U can't upload
somthing
with "PD" or CC-by (for example), on commons if not in all states u can
use
that materials. Commons, for that reason, had deleted all images that was
tagged with "PD-Italy"... than... wich is the difference ?
Commons is a different project, and there is some sense to their
stricter rules. Unless I misunderstand something "PD-Italy" means that
it is in the public domain in Italy. (Has Italy accepted for copyrights
to last for life + 70 years, like the rest of the EU, or is it still
life + 50?) If it is in the public domain in Italy I don't see why you
can't just upload it directly to it:wp instead of putting it into
commons. If Italian law does not allow you to photograph a painting by
Botticelli in the museum in Florence this has nothing to do with
copyright, but is something else.
For other thing... i qoute Snowdog, if u want a
free wikipedia, REALLY
free... ok u have to abandon the fair use, and we will abandon all not
free
images.
I think that many people will not accept that because they see it as
some kind of blackmail. What the Italian language project does, and
what the English project does have nothing to do with each other. In
Mexico copyrights last for 100 years after a person's death. Keeping
everyone back because one country has such a longer term makes no sense.
Ec
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