Gerard,
Thanks for adding all of those statements to Wikidata! Thanks to you, I
have been able to match up thousands of artists in Mix-n-Match!
Like you, I am not afraid of a 1%-3% error margin, especially when tools
like Mix-n-Match mean we can uncover such mistakes quickly and efficiently.
Mix-n-Match is fast becoming a tool where large database owners like GLAMs
can come pick up their data inconsistencies and learn from Wiki projects,
instead of the other way around.
...and stop reading this email list before you've had a second cup of
coffee....
Kudos,
Jane
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com
wrote:
Hoi,
When specific categories of data do not make it in Wikidata like the
"impact factor", it is not a problem. As much can be understood from my
blogpost.
I may miss certain items as not being human. That is the exceptionto the
rule. In the past weeks I have added tens of thousands of statements. I
have in the past published many times about strategies of improving the
quality of Wikidata. I have worked with people on implementing such
strategies as well.
So what is your point ? Am I evil ?? If so, fine. When you have better
strategies for adding statements to Wikidata speak up.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 12 December 2014 at 09:08, John Mark Vandenberg <jayvdb(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Gerard Meijssen
<gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hoi,
This problem is not new. It is not as if the Commons community is not
aware
> of this perception. The perception that there might be a situation
where
> someone is sued is not necessary shared by
lawyers. They have to make a
> living as well so they will sue when they are paid to do so.
>
> When people complain that Commonists go to far in what they do and
their
> only defence is "you are demotivating
me" than that is exactly what
needs
to be
done. They need to be demotivated to go berserk with their
misguided
> interpretation of copyright. When some hotheads leave the building, it
> will lower the temperature and we can start to talk.
>
> Commons is not the only project that serves the whole of our
communities.
Wikidata
is another. I regularly find images for people that are not
moved
to Commons because Commons is not trusted. Now
that pisses me off
terribly
> and it sours my appreciation of Commons. As it is, Commons is not
trusted
> and not discussing this only puts this
discussion further back with
even
more ill
feelings and even less appreciation for the people who do good
work at Commons. They are ultimately the people who suffer the most.
And the same is said and done regarding Wikidata , which client
projects are very skeptical about trusting to hold data. Wikidata
also has its own copyright issues. If Wikipedia data is migrated to
Wikidata, and it is determined that Wikidata violations database
copyrights (whereas Wikipedia may not have), we have to migrate all
the data back. Exactly the same as Commons. Yet you've been a
proponent of Wikidata ignoring these database copyright issues.
http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2014/03/wikipedia-and-impact-factor-of-n…
Wikidata also has quality control issues that will mean it is going to
take a lot of work to clean up the data it contains in order to become
reliable. e.g. in the last few days you've created items and labelled
them as 'instance of human' , when they are not humans. :/
https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q18615764&action=history
https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q18601263&action=history
Your response when this exact same problem has been discussed several
times is, if I can paraphrase, .. you do so many edits that you
believe it is someone elses job to fix the small percentage of errors
caused by your hyper-productivity. That works in theory in large
wikis, but doesnt work so well when the vast majority of new Wikidata
content is added by simplistic bots and humans doing similarly large
batches of semi-automated edits.
--
John Vandenberg
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