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Outcomes from the Consultation on Wikimedia movement conferences/Wikimania
by Ellie Young 09 Feb '16

09 Feb '16

The Community Resources team at the WMF recently held a consultation <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Towards_a_New_Wikimania> on articulating the value of Wikimedia movement conferences overall, the unique value of Wikimania, and what new form Wikimania could take to better serve the movement going forward. We have completed analysis of these results and have prepared this report: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Towards_a_New_Wikimania/Outc… I will be working with the community, organizers, committees, and WMF in 2017 to begin set up and planning for an experimental model for Wikimedia movement conferences, including Wikimania, starting in 2018. Feedback and comments are welcome at the discussion page <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:IdeaLab/Towards_a_New_Wikimania…> Thanks to all who participated! Ellie -- Ellie Young Events Manager Wikimedia Foundation eyoung(a)wikimedia.org

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Dead links/Wayback Machine bots?
by Johan Jönsson 09 Feb '16

09 Feb '16

HI everyone, I've asked the same question in other places last week, but this might have a better/different reach: Do you know of bots that handle dead links, especially if they in some way move them to the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine? I'm aware of bots on the English, German, French, Spanish and Italian Wikipedias. If you know of any others, I'd be grateful if you'd let me know. //Johan Jönsson --

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Maithili Wikimedians User Group
by reachout2isaac＠gmail.com 09 Feb '16

09 Feb '16

Congratulations to Maithili Wikimedians User Group. Best, Olatunde Isaac, Manager, Wikipedia Education Program Nigeria Phone: +2348166620737 Email: reachout2isaac(a)gmail.com User page: Wikicology Facebook: Olatunde Olalekan Isaac. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile. -----Original Message----- From: wikimedia-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org Sender: "Wikimedia-l" <wikimedia-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org>Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2016 21:42:54 To: <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Reply-To: wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 143, Issue 32 Send Wikimedia-l mailing list submissions to wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wikimedia-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at wikimedia-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Wikimedia-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Outcomes from the Consultation on Wikimedia movement conferences/Wikimania (Marc A. Pelletier) 2. Recognition of Maithili Wikimedians User Group (Carlos M. Colina) 3. Recognition of Wikimedia Community User Group Turkey (Carlos M. Colina) 4. Re: Recognition of Maithili Wikimedians User Group (Tito Dutta) 5. Re: Recognition of Maithili Wikimedians User Group (Olaniyan Olushola) 6. Re: Dead links/Wayback Machine bots? (Martin Pascal) 7. Re: Farewell <3 (Ziko van Dijk) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 15:55:27 -0500 From: "Marc A. Pelletier" <marc(a)uberbox.org> To: wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Outcomes from the Consultation on Wikimedia movement conferences/Wikimania Message-ID: <56BA523F.1080303(a)uberbox.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed On 2016-02-08 5:53 PM, Ellie Young wrote: > The Community Resources team at the WMF recently held a consultation I will join my voice to the chorus expressing concern and dismay at the completely ridiculous interpretation of that minor discussion - it clearly does not resemble a mandate to make such a sweeping change to a movement-central event like this. [Obvious disclaimer: I am the lead organizer of the 2017 edition of said event so clearly I am not unbiased] I've never been a fan of the old bidding process - having been its victim in the past and seeing the large amount of wasted effort and demotivation it must necessarily generate - and I agree wholeheartedly that the *process* needs to be reexamined. But even *that* reexamination requires more than a couple weeks on a talk page with a couple dozen people involved. Something of the scope of the changes that consultation is claimed to warrant, however? Farcical. Wikimania is the beating heart of our movement. We should be deploying efforts to be more inclusive and place it within reach of a larger segment of the community, not chopping it up. -- Marc ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 22:59:21 +0200 From: "Carlos M. Colina" <maorx(a)wikimedia.org.ve> To: wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Maithili Wikimedians User Group Message-ID: <56BA5329.7070201(a)wikimedia.org.ve> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Dear all, On behalf of the Affiliations Committee, I am honoured to announce the recognition of a new Wikimedia User Group in South Asia: Maithili Wikimedians User Group [1]. Their main focus is the development of free content in Maithili, a language spoken by over 30 million people in Nepal and India. Welcome to the family!! 1: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Maithili_Wikimedians_User_Group -- "*Jülüjain wane mmakat* ein kapülain tü alijunakalirua jee wayuukanairua junain ekerolaa alümüin supüshuwayale etijaanaka. Ayatashi waya junain." Carlos M. Colina Socio, A.C. Wikimedia Venezuela | RIF J-40129321-2 | www.wikimedia.org.ve <http://wikimedia.org.ve> Member, Wikimedia Foundation Affiliations Committee Phone: +972-52-4869915 Twitter: @maor_x ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 23:00:10 +0200 From: "Carlos M. Colina" <maorx(a)wikimedia.org.ve> To: wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Wikimedia Community User Group Turkey Message-ID: <56BA535A.4080502(a)wikimedia.org.ve> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Dear all, It is my pleasure to announce, on behalf of the Affiliations Committee, the recognition of a new member of the family of affiliates, this time in the Middle East: Wikimedia Community User Group Turkey [1]. Among their many interests, is the development of projects with educational institutions, museums and libraries within Turkey, in order to develop free content related to Turkey and of course, in Turkish. Hoş geldiniz! 1: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Community_User_Group_Turkey -- "*Jülüjain wane mmakat* ein kapülain tü alijunakalirua jee wayuukanairua junain ekerolaa alümüin supüshuwayale etijaanaka. Ayatashi waya junain." Carlos M. Colina Socio, A.C. Wikimedia Venezuela | RIF J-40129321-2 | www.wikimedia.org.ve <http://wikimedia.org.ve> Member, Wikimedia Foundation Affiliations Committee Phone: +972-52-4869915 Twitter: @maor_x ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 02:30:02 +0530 From: Tito Dutta <trulytito(a)gmail.com> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Maithili Wikimedians User Group Message-ID: <CAEdAQ_g3v+yT3+C5x1T1RyTX3N5AXq0yV4wo5m_V2gLQeO_-FA(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Great. Congratulations. On 10 February 2016 at 02:29, Carlos M. Colina <maorx(a)wikimedia.org.ve> wrote: > Dear all, > > On behalf of the Affiliations Committee, I am honoured to announce the > recognition of a new Wikimedia User Group in South Asia: Maithili > Wikimedians User Group [1]. Their main focus is the development of free > content in Maithili, a language spoken by over 30 million people in Nepal > and India. > > Welcome to the family!! > > > 1: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Maithili_Wikimedians_User_Group > -- > "*Jülüjain wane mmakat* ein kapülain tü alijunakalirua jee wayuukanairua > junain ekerolaa alümüin supüshuwayale etijaanaka. Ayatashi waya junain." > Carlos M. Colina > Socio, A.C. Wikimedia Venezuela | RIF J-40129321-2 | www.wikimedia.org.ve > <http://wikimedia.org.ve> > Member, Wikimedia Foundation Affiliations Committee > Phone: +972-52-4869915 > Twitter: @maor_x > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2016 22:19:30 +0100 From: Olaniyan Olushola <olaniyanshola(a)yahoo.com> To: Tito Dutta <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>, Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Maithili Wikimedians User Group Message-ID: <20160209211930.5427284.34988.7629(a)yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Welcome to the family Olaniyan Olushola Team Lead, WUGN Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. Original Message From: Tito Dutta Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:00 PM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Reply To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Maithili Wikimedians User Group Great. Congratulations. On 10 February 2016 at 02:29, Carlos M. Colina <maorx(a)wikimedia.org.ve> wrote: > Dear all, > > On behalf of the Affiliations Committee, I am honoured to announce the > recognition of a new Wikimedia User Group in South Asia: Maithili > Wikimedians User Group [1]. Their main focus is the development of free > content in Maithili, a language spoken by over 30 million people in Nepal > and India. > > Welcome to the family!! > > > 1: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Maithili_Wikimedians_User_Group > -- > "*Jülüjain wane mmakat* ein kapülain tü alijunakalirua jee wayuukanairua > junain ekerolaa alümüin supüshuwayale etijaanaka. Ayatashi waya junain." > Carlos M. Colina > Socio, A.C. Wikimedia Venezuela | RIF J-40129321-2 | www.wikimedia.org.ve > <http://wikimedia.org.ve> > Member, Wikimedia Foundation Affiliations Committee > Phone: +972-52-4869915 > Twitter: @maor_x > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 22:26:58 +0100 From: Martin Pascal <pmartin(a)linterweb.fr> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dead links/Wayback Machine bots? Message-ID: <56BA59A2.8060504(a)linterweb.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Hi everyone, I am Pascal Martin from Linterweb, my english is not better than in the past :) We have storage all the links ( dead or not ) in real time since 2008 from all the project of French wikimedia, and Hungarian and Romania wikipedia and probably English Wikipedia. We could make this in this European Data Center ( http://www.criann.fr/ ) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renater Why only speak about IA, we could begin to start storage this week from all the project in any language in real time a link appears in wikipedia with not anymore ressource : https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Tech/Migrate_dead_links_to_the_Wa… We have the same parthernships with the Fondation OpenDemocracy. Like you see, we have in the past a paternships with the WMF : https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/Version_.5 http://blog.wikiwix.com/en/2011/07/08/linterweb-in-charge-of-archiving-exte… I have contact Dany but it not answer me what is the partehnerships with WMF and IA. Bests Regards Le 09/02/2016 16:59, Johan Jönsson a écrit : > HI everyone, > > I've asked the same question in other places last week, but this might have > a better/different reach: Do you know of bots that handle dead links, > especially if they in some way move them to the Internet Archive's Wayback > Machine? I'm aware of bots on the English, German, French, Spanish and > Italian Wikipedias. If you know of any others, I'd be grateful if you'd let > me know. > > //Johan Jönsson > -- > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> --- L'absence de virus dans ce courrier électronique a été vérifiée par le logiciel antivirus Avast. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 22:42:52 +0100 From: Ziko van Dijk <zvandijk(a)gmail.com> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Farewell <3 Message-ID: <CADut_2LWpFtbA_1bpxtDsa1t3o1qsnQQsXSJ9RtOzrmkkx1GqA(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Dear Anna, Thank you for your work, I enjoyed seeing some of it in Mexico. All the best for the future! Kind regards Ziko 2016-02-09 21:21 GMT+01:00 Vira Motorko <vira.motorko(a)gmail.com>: > Thank you, Anna, for whom you become for me and for us! > > Where are you going next? :) > > *--* > *Vira Motorko* > project manager, Wikimedia Ukraine <https://ua.wikimedia.org/> > +380667740499 > > Are you saving your documents in free formats? ;) > Help save natural resources – please think twice before printing this > e-mail or any attachments. > > 2016-02-09 19:49 GMT+02:00 Anna Koval <akoval(a)wikimedia.org>: > >> Dear friends, >> >> During the past three years, I have been privileged to be a part of this >> movement and this organization. >> >> I have been honored to be your colleague and to work with you in service of >> the sum of all knowledge. >> >> In particular, I wish to note particular projects that have inspired me >> very much. >> >> - Working with Philippe Beautdette, Maggie Dennis, James Alexander, and >> Jan Eisfeldt to keep our community safe from threats of harm. [1] >> - Working with Patrick Earley, Nick Wilson, Erica Litrenta, Sherry >> Snyder, Oliver Keyes, and James Forester on the rollout of >> VisualEditor. [2] >> - Working with Yana Welinder and Heather Walls to design a user-friendly >> trademark policy. [3] [4] >> - Working with Siko Bouterse to support Individual Engagement Grants and >> movement diversity. [5] [6] >> - Working with Jake Orlowitz to promote the Wikipedia Library and the >> Wikipedia Adventure. [7] [8] >> - Working with Jaime Anstee, Edward Galvez, Amanda Bittaker to encourage >> evaluation and learning. [9] >> - Working with Asaf Bartov to encourage regional cooperation in Central >> and Eastern Europe. [10] >> - Working with Floor Koudijs. Tighe Flanagan, Kacie Harold, Samir >> Elsharbaty, Rodney Dunican, Sage Ross, Jami Mathewson, and LiAnna Davis >> on >> the Wikipedia Education Program. [11] >> >> The Wikipedia Education Program is especially near and dear to my heart. It >> is a means of educating readers, recruiting contributors, and creating >> quality content. Since 2014, the number of education initiatives around the >> world has increased by 36%. [12] [13] And 25% of all education programs are >> in one of the regions that I directly supported. [14] I am so proud of what >> they have accomplished. And I am enthusiastic about what great things they >> have yet to achieve. >> >> I want to thank and compliment my current manager, Floor Koudijs. She is a >> competent, considerate, conscientious leader, and her diplomacy skills are >> unsurpassed. I am confident that the education team and the education >> program will continue to excel under her leadership. They are in the best >> hands. >> >> I want to thank and compliment my hiring manager, Maggie Dennis. She had >> faith that, although I wasn’t an active community member, I could be taught >> to be a good community advocate. I am so proud that I proved her right. She >> taught me how to work in accordance with and to have the utmost respect for >> the wiki way. [15] >> >> Wikipedia is a miracle, a monument to altruism. It is vital to the internet >> ecosystem, and it is vital to the education system. I hope that more young >> people especially will find their way to it and help out. And when they do, >> I hope that they are met with wise mentorship from veteran community >> members, just as I was. >> >> I intend to remain a Wikipedian even after I am no longer a WMF staff >> member. And, with that promise, I’ll see you on the wikis. [16] >> >> All the best, >> Anna Koval, M.Ed. >> >> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Threats_of_harm >> [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor >> [3] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Trademark_policy >> [4] >> >> http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/10/29/designing-a-user-friendly-trademark-po… >> [5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG >> [6] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Diversity_Conference >> [7] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikipedia_Library >> [8] https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikipedia_Adventure >> [9] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Evaluation >> [10] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Central_and_Eastern_Europe >> [11] https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education >> [12] >> >> https://outreach.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Education/Countries&oldid=… >> [13] https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/Countries >> [14] >> >> https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3ACEE_2015_State_of_th… >> [15] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_wiki_way >> [16] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Msannakoval >> >> -- >> >> Anna Koval, M.Ed. >> Manager, Wikipedia Education Program >> Wikimedia Foundation >> +1.415.839.6885 x 6729 >> Skype: annakoval.wiki >> akoval(a)wikimedia.org >> education.wikimedia.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >> New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ------------------------------ End of Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 143, Issue 32 ********************************************

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Outcomes from the Consultation on Wikimedia movemen conferences/Wikimania
by James Heilman 09 Feb '16

09 Feb '16

The best way to measure the value of Wikimania IMO is through stories. So here are a few of mine: 1) In Washington, DC a group of us meet regarding a new sister site. Partly from this, two editing communities working on travel content were brought back together and Wikivoyage was reborn as a WMF site. A gentleman from the World Health Organization flew in to meet with some medical editors. A six month Wikipedian in Residence at WHO followed, I was invited to speak in Geneva, and the Bulletin of the World Health Organization is now under a CC BY SA license with work for them to more fully adopt an open license. 2) In Hong Kong I meet with the gentleman who runs Healthphone http://www.healthphone.org/ He has subsequently agree to release some amazing pubic health videos under an open license one of which you can see here on Hindi Wikipedia https://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B8%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%A4%E0%A4%A8%E0%A4%AA… Discussions are ongoing to have WP's medical content included on 2 million SD cards being shipped to healthcare workers in India. 3) In London I was introduced to volunteer programmer through a friend of a friend. We had an idea for a copy and paste detection bot and we just needed someone who knew how to code. Eran did the coding during the conference. The bot is now live on all of En WP with other languages in the works https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:EranBot/Copyright/rc 4) In Mexico we continued to improve the copyright bot and pulling in a few more programmers. Our community liaison for the project got to meet community members face to face for the first time. We also solved some issues regarding maps that had the potential to go sideways. I am certain many other have similar stories. I have personally found Wikimania invaluable. Attempting to bring us together once a year is not too much. -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine www.opentextbookofmedicine.com

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Recognition of Maithili Wikimedians User Group
by Carlos M. Colina 09 Feb '16

09 Feb '16

Dear all, On behalf of the Affiliations Committee, I am honoured to announce the recognition of a new Wikimedia User Group in South Asia: Maithili Wikimedians User Group [1]. Their main focus is the development of free content in Maithili, a language spoken by over 30 million people in Nepal and India. Welcome to the family!! 1: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Maithili_Wikimedians_User_Group -- "*Jülüjain wane mmakat* ein kapülain tü alijunakalirua jee wayuukanairua junain ekerolaa alümüin supüshuwayale etijaanaka. Ayatashi waya junain." Carlos M. Colina Socio, A.C. Wikimedia Venezuela | RIF J-40129321-2 | www.wikimedia.org.ve <http://wikimedia.org.ve> Member, Wikimedia Foundation Affiliations Committee Phone: +972-52-4869915 Twitter: @maor_x

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Recognition of Wikimedia Community User Group Turkey
by Carlos M. Colina 09 Feb '16

09 Feb '16

Dear all, It is my pleasure to announce, on behalf of the Affiliations Committee, the recognition of a new member of the family of affiliates, this time in the Middle East: Wikimedia Community User Group Turkey [1]. Among their many interests, is the development of projects with educational institutions, museums and libraries within Turkey, in order to develop free content related to Turkey and of course, in Turkish. Hoş geldiniz! 1: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Community_User_Group_Turkey -- "*Jülüjain wane mmakat* ein kapülain tü alijunakalirua jee wayuukanairua junain ekerolaa alümüin supüshuwayale etijaanaka. Ayatashi waya junain." Carlos M. Colina Socio, A.C. Wikimedia Venezuela | RIF J-40129321-2 | www.wikimedia.org.ve <http://wikimedia.org.ve> Member, Wikimedia Foundation Affiliations Committee Phone: +972-52-4869915 Twitter: @maor_x

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Farewell
by reachout2isaac＠gmail.com 09 Feb '16

09 Feb '16

Anna Koval, you are a mentor and a leader with high self esteem. I do appreciate all your contributions to the Wikimedia movement. You have added value to leaders who will multiply value to others and we are proud of you. Our well wishes are always with you for your health, wealth, and success. Thank you again for everything. Best, Olatunde Isaac, Manager, Wikipedia Education Program Nigeria Phone: +2348166620737 Email: reachout2isaac(a)gmail.com User page: Wikicology Facebook: Olatunde Olalekan Isaac. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile. -----Original Message----- From: wikimedia-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org Sender: "Wikimedia-l" <wikimedia-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org>Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2016 18:22:33 To: <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Reply-To: wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 143, Issue 27 Send Wikimedia-l mailing list submissions to wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wikimedia-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at wikimedia-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Wikimedia-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Outcomes from the Consultation on Wikimedia movement conferences/Wikimania (Chris Keating) 2. Re: Farewell <3 (Steinsplitter Wiki) 3. Re: Farewell <3 (Felix Nartey) 4. Re: Farewell <3 (Sydney Poore) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 18:09:20 +0000 From: Chris Keating <chriskeatingwiki(a)gmail.com> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Outcomes from the Consultation on Wikimedia movement conferences/Wikimania Message-ID: <CAFche1rz4gvyfLKCiYLDk6TrY+D1PjyNY_-LqD56qKuGS8FjCg(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Just to add my thoughts on this. I think the whole discussion is quite a novel situation in WMF-Community relations, as we have never dealt with an issue quite like this before. Firstly the good (and even though this section is shorter, it's just as significant): 1) The WMF is consulting and discussing, not simply doing. This is a good thing (and hopefully it's possible to agree that it is a good thing, even if you disagree with the handling of the consultation, or indeed the conclusion reached). If you don't think it's a good thing, please compare it with say (for instance) the Haifa letter. 2) We do now have a clear statement of what benefits Wikimania brings the movement, which we didn't have before. Again, this is good. :-) However there are a few areas where I still have some concerns about the direction this is going: 3) I am still really unsure who is owning this process, either within the WMF or in general. Generally, I think clear responsibility and accountability *eases* difficult conversations and so far as I can tell they are lacking in the conversation about "what should happen with Wikimania". Is it the WMF's view that Wikimania in its current form is broken and change is needed - if so who represents that view to the community? (Or if not, what *is* the WMF's view?) Equally, I am not really clear what the Wikimania Committee sees its sees its role as these days. In general I am all for ad-hoc groups going and doing things but I think we are some way past the limit of that model with Wikimania. 4) I don't see a 55-47 vote on a menu of 3 options as being a particularly strong indication of community consensus. Indeed, it's pretty clear there isn't a consensus, and it would be a shame if people proceeded on the basis that "There was a consultation and the answer was X - so we're doing X". That said, I would be really happy to hear voices from the WMF or the Wikimania Committee saying "The important factors we see are X, Y and Z. >From the consultation showed lots of other people were thinking X and Y (though less Z) and P and Q were also important which we hadn't thought about. As a result, we are intending to do: This. Thanks, Chris On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:57 PM, Nathan <nawrich(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Risker <risker.wp(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hello Gerard, I believe the topic of capping costs is a reasonable one > > because, simply put, there are not unlimited resources within the > movement. > > Some of us have the financial wherewithal to attend "on our own dime", > but > > many of our colleagues from around the world are not in that position. > > > Let's stipulate that there isn't a lot of empirical evidence proving the > value of Wikimania to the movement. I think the same could be said for tens > of millions of dollars in WMF spending. Considering the comparatively tiny > cost of Wikimania, it makes much more sense to me for the WMF to put its > own operations through a cost/benefit crucible. This is just one more > example of the WMF being much more demanding on money spent outside the > organization than it is on internal spending. > > It doesn't appear that the options presented were really fair or that the > conclusions drawn from them can be considered supported; option 1 was the > "give WMF complete control" option, option 2 was "get rid of Wikimania" and > option 3 was "Have Wikimania every other year." I have to suspect that if > there was a "have Wikimania every year, don't give WMF control" option many > would have selected it. > > If a different organization decides to host its own Wikimania (and I don't > know that the WMF "owns" the name Wikimania) in 2018, I would happily > support that effort. > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 19:09:57 +0100 From: Steinsplitter Wiki <steinsplitter-wiki(a)live.com> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Farewell <3 Message-ID: <DUB124-W4474DD46DCAE861E74D2E0E6D60(a)phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Anna, I will miss you! Thanks for all your excellent work. I always appreciated it. It was a pleasure to work edit you together at outreachwiki. I hope you will edit as volunteer :-) --Steinsplitter > From: akoval(a)wikimedia.org > Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 09:49:18 -0800 > To: wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Farewell <3 > > Dear friends, > > During the past three years, I have been privileged to be a part of this > movement and this organization. > > I have been honored to be your colleague and to work with you in service of > the sum of all knowledge. > > In particular, I wish to note particular projects that have inspired me > very much. > > - Working with Philippe Beautdette, Maggie Dennis, James Alexander, and > Jan Eisfeldt to keep our community safe from threats of harm. [1] > - Working with Patrick Earley, Nick Wilson, Erica Litrenta, Sherry > Snyder, Oliver Keyes, and James Forester on the rollout of VisualEditor. [2] > - Working with Yana Welinder and Heather Walls to design a user-friendly > trademark policy. [3] [4] > - Working with Siko Bouterse to support Individual Engagement Grants and > movement diversity. [5] [6] > - Working with Jake Orlowitz to promote the Wikipedia Library and the > Wikipedia Adventure. [7] [8] > - Working with Jaime Anstee, Edward Galvez, Amanda Bittaker to encourage > evaluation and learning. [9] > - Working with Asaf Bartov to encourage regional cooperation in Central > and Eastern Europe. [10] > - Working with Floor Koudijs. Tighe Flanagan, Kacie Harold, Samir > Elsharbaty, Rodney Dunican, Sage Ross, Jami Mathewson, and LiAnna Davis on > the Wikipedia Education Program. [11] > > The Wikipedia Education Program is especially near and dear to my heart. It > is a means of educating readers, recruiting contributors, and creating > quality content. Since 2014, the number of education initiatives around the > world has increased by 36%. [12] [13] And 25% of all education programs are > in one of the regions that I directly supported. [14] I am so proud of what > they have accomplished. And I am enthusiastic about what great things they > have yet to achieve. > > I want to thank and compliment my current manager, Floor Koudijs. She is a > competent, considerate, conscientious leader, and her diplomacy skills are > unsurpassed. I am confident that the education team and the education > program will continue to excel under her leadership. They are in the best > hands. > > I want to thank and compliment my hiring manager, Maggie Dennis. She had > faith that, although I wasn’t an active community member, I could be taught > to be a good community advocate. I am so proud that I proved her right. She > taught me how to work in accordance with and to have the utmost respect for > the wiki way. [15] > > Wikipedia is a miracle, a monument to altruism. It is vital to the internet > ecosystem, and it is vital to the education system. I hope that more young > people especially will find their way to it and help out. And when they do, > I hope that they are met with wise mentorship from veteran community > members, just as I was. > > I intend to remain a Wikipedian even after I am no longer a WMF staff > member. And, with that promise, I’ll see you on the wikis. [16] > > All the best, > Anna Koval, M.Ed. > > [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Threats_of_harm > [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor > [3] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Trademark_policy > [4] > http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/10/29/designing-a-user-friendly-trademark-po… > [5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG > [6] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Diversity_Conference > [7] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikipedia_Library > [8] https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikipedia_Adventure > [9] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Evaluation > [10] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Central_and_Eastern_Europe > [11] https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education > [12] > https://outreach.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Education/Countries&oldid=… > [13] https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/Countries > [14] > https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3ACEE_2015_State_of_th… > [15] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_wiki_way > [16] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Msannakoval > > -- > > Anna Koval, M.Ed. > Manager, Wikipedia Education Program > Wikimedia Foundation > +1.415.839.6885 x 6729 > Skype: annakoval.wiki > akoval(a)wikimedia.org > education.wikimedia.org > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 18:17:45 +0000 From: Felix Nartey <flixtey(a)gmail.com> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Farewell <3 Message-ID: <CAD7OFmUkmVRTi6eshGNwxerh_OSKR9gj37L5q3dQFCmuxGi3vA(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 You were a great personality to relate to, loved every bit of our chat and hope our roads cross again. Farewell and the best of lock in your next endeavor. Best regards, Felix On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 5:58 PM, attolippip <attolippip(a)gmail.com> wrote: > <3 <3 <3 > may you fare well > it was pleasure working together... > you have inspired me a lot > and I am thankful for all your work > > see you <3 > > warm regards, > antanana > Wikimedia Ukraine > > 2016-02-09 19:49 GMT+02:00 Anna Koval <akoval(a)wikimedia.org>: > > > Dear friends, > > > > During the past three years, I have been privileged to be a part of this > > movement and this organization. > > > > I have been honored to be your colleague and to work with you in service > of > > the sum of all knowledge. > > > > In particular, I wish to note particular projects that have inspired me > > very much. > > > > - Working with Philippe Beautdette, Maggie Dennis, James Alexander, > and > > Jan Eisfeldt to keep our community safe from threats of harm. [1] > > - Working with Patrick Earley, Nick Wilson, Erica Litrenta, Sherry > > Snyder, Oliver Keyes, and James Forester on the rollout of > > VisualEditor. [2] > > - Working with Yana Welinder and Heather Walls to design a > user-friendly > > trademark policy. [3] [4] > > - Working with Siko Bouterse to support Individual Engagement Grants > and > > movement diversity. [5] [6] > > - Working with Jake Orlowitz to promote the Wikipedia Library and the > > Wikipedia Adventure. [7] [8] > > - Working with Jaime Anstee, Edward Galvez, Amanda Bittaker to > encourage > > evaluation and learning. [9] > > - Working with Asaf Bartov to encourage regional cooperation in > Central > > and Eastern Europe. [10] > > - Working with Floor Koudijs. Tighe Flanagan, Kacie Harold, Samir > > Elsharbaty, Rodney Dunican, Sage Ross, Jami Mathewson, and LiAnna > Davis > > on > > the Wikipedia Education Program. [11] > > > > The Wikipedia Education Program is especially near and dear to my heart. > It > > is a means of educating readers, recruiting contributors, and creating > > quality content. Since 2014, the number of education initiatives around > the > > world has increased by 36%. [12] [13] And 25% of all education programs > are > > in one of the regions that I directly supported. [14] I am so proud of > what > > they have accomplished. And I am enthusiastic about what great things > they > > have yet to achieve. > > > > I want to thank and compliment my current manager, Floor Koudijs. She is > a > > competent, considerate, conscientious leader, and her diplomacy skills > are > > unsurpassed. I am confident that the education team and the education > > program will continue to excel under her leadership. They are in the best > > hands. > > > > I want to thank and compliment my hiring manager, Maggie Dennis. She had > > faith that, although I wasn’t an active community member, I could be > taught > > to be a good community advocate. I am so proud that I proved her right. > She > > taught me how to work in accordance with and to have the utmost respect > for > > the wiki way. [15] > > > > Wikipedia is a miracle, a monument to altruism. It is vital to the > internet > > ecosystem, and it is vital to the education system. I hope that more > young > > people especially will find their way to it and help out. And when they > do, > > I hope that they are met with wise mentorship from veteran community > > members, just as I was. > > > > I intend to remain a Wikipedian even after I am no longer a WMF staff > > member. And, with that promise, I’ll see you on the wikis. [16] > > > > All the best, > > Anna Koval, M.Ed. > > > > [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Threats_of_harm > > [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor > > [3] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Trademark_policy > > [4] > > > > > http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/10/29/designing-a-user-friendly-trademark-po… > > [5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG > > [6] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Diversity_Conference > > [7] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikipedia_Library > > [8] https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikipedia_Adventure > > [9] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Evaluation > > [10] > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Central_and_Eastern_Europe > > [11] https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education > > [12] > > > > > https://outreach.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Education/Countries&oldid=… > > [13] https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/Countries > > [14] > > > > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3ACEE_2015_State_of_th… > > [15] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_wiki_way > > [16] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Msannakoval > > > > -- > > > > Anna Koval, M.Ed. > > Manager, Wikipedia Education Program > > Wikimedia Foundation > > +1.415.839.6885 x 6729 > > Skype: annakoval.wiki > > akoval(a)wikimedia.org > > education.wikimedia.org > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > -- *Felix Nartey | DSE CAL Bank Ltd. | Co-manager GBG TEMA <https://plus.google.com/u/0/106882654487622047846/posts> **| Community Manager WMGH <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Ghana> | About me <http://about.me/felix.nartey> | +233 242 844987 **| **Check out!! <http://goo.gl/4oHJeQ>* ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 13:22:29 -0500 From: Sydney Poore <sydney.poore(a)gmail.com> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Farewell <3 Message-ID: <CAA6ZO2RwC0T+omctsJwou53V=Bsdk8384pfC1KuiSKjgYfN_jQ(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Thank you for your dedication to the wikimedia movement for the past 3 years. Best wishes for your next endeavor. Warm regards, Sydney On Feb 9, 2016 1:18 PM, "Felix Nartey" <flixtey(a)gmail.com> wrote: > You were a great personality to relate to, loved every bit of our chat and > hope our roads cross again. > > Farewell and the best of lock in your next endeavor. > > Best regards, > Felix > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 5:58 PM, attolippip <attolippip(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > <3 <3 <3 > > may you fare well > > it was pleasure working together... > > you have inspired me a lot > > and I am thankful for all your work > > > > see you <3 > > > > warm regards, > > antanana > > Wikimedia Ukraine > > > > 2016-02-09 19:49 GMT+02:00 Anna Koval <akoval(a)wikimedia.org>: > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > During the past three years, I have been privileged to be a part of > this > > > movement and this organization. > > > > > > I have been honored to be your colleague and to work with you in > service > > of > > > the sum of all knowledge. > > > > > > In particular, I wish to note particular projects that have inspired me > > > very much. > > > > > > - Working with Philippe Beautdette, Maggie Dennis, James Alexander, > > and > > > Jan Eisfeldt to keep our community safe from threats of harm. [1] > > > - Working with Patrick Earley, Nick Wilson, Erica Litrenta, Sherry > > > Snyder, Oliver Keyes, and James Forester on the rollout of > > > VisualEditor. [2] > > > - Working with Yana Welinder and Heather Walls to design a > > user-friendly > > > trademark policy. [3] [4] > > > - Working with Siko Bouterse to support Individual Engagement Grants > > and > > > movement diversity. [5] [6] > > > - Working with Jake Orlowitz to promote the Wikipedia Library and > the > > > Wikipedia Adventure. [7] [8] > > > - Working with Jaime Anstee, Edward Galvez, Amanda Bittaker to > > encourage > > > evaluation and learning. [9] > > > - Working with Asaf Bartov to encourage regional cooperation in > > Central > > > and Eastern Europe. [10] > > > - Working with Floor Koudijs. Tighe Flanagan, Kacie Harold, Samir > > > Elsharbaty, Rodney Dunican, Sage Ross, Jami Mathewson, and LiAnna > > Davis > > > on > > > the Wikipedia Education Program. [11] > > > > > > The Wikipedia Education Program is especially near and dear to my > heart. > > It > > > is a means of educating readers, recruiting contributors, and creating > > > quality content. Since 2014, the number of education initiatives around > > the > > > world has increased by 36%. [12] [13] And 25% of all education programs > > are > > > in one of the regions that I directly supported. [14] I am so proud of > > what > > > they have accomplished. And I am enthusiastic about what great things > > they > > > have yet to achieve. > > > > > > I want to thank and compliment my current manager, Floor Koudijs. She > is > > a > > > competent, considerate, conscientious leader, and her diplomacy skills > > are > > > unsurpassed. I am confident that the education team and the education > > > program will continue to excel under her leadership. They are in the > best > > > hands. > > > > > > I want to thank and compliment my hiring manager, Maggie Dennis. She > had > > > faith that, although I wasn’t an active community member, I could be > > taught > > > to be a good community advocate. I am so proud that I proved her right. > > She > > > taught me how to work in accordance with and to have the utmost respect > > for > > > the wiki way. [15] > > > > > > Wikipedia is a miracle, a monument to altruism. It is vital to the > > internet > > > ecosystem, and it is vital to the education system. I hope that more > > young > > > people especially will find their way to it and help out. And when they > > do, > > > I hope that they are met with wise mentorship from veteran community > > > members, just as I was. > > > > > > I intend to remain a Wikipedian even after I am no longer a WMF staff > > > member. And, with that promise, I’ll see you on the wikis. [16] > > > > > > All the best, > > > Anna Koval, M.Ed. > > > > > > [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Threats_of_harm > > > [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor > > > [3] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Trademark_policy > > > [4] > > > > > > > > > http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/10/29/designing-a-user-friendly-trademark-po… > > > [5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG > > > [6] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Diversity_Conference > > > [7] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikipedia_Library > > > [8] https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikipedia_Adventure > > > [9] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Evaluation > > > [10] > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Central_and_Eastern_Europe > > > [11] https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education > > > [12] > > > > > > > > > https://outreach.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Education/Countries&oldid=… > > > [13] https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/Countries > > > [14] > > > > > > > > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3ACEE_2015_State_of_th… > > > [15] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_wiki_way > > > [16] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Msannakoval > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Anna Koval, M.Ed. > > > Manager, Wikipedia Education Program > > > Wikimedia Foundation > > > +1.415.839.6885 x 6729 > > > Skype: annakoval.wiki > > > akoval(a)wikimedia.org > > > education.wikimedia.org > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > -- > > > > *Felix Nartey | DSE CAL Bank Ltd. | Co-manager GBG TEMA > <https://plus.google.com/u/0/106882654487622047846/posts> **| Community > Manager WMGH <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Ghana> | About me > <http://about.me/felix.nartey> | +233 242 844987 **| **Check out!! > <http://goo.gl/4oHJeQ>* > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ------------------------------ End of Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 143, Issue 27 ********************************************

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Why take grants? (was: Can we see the Knight grant application and grant offer?)
by C. Scott Ananian 08 Feb '16

08 Feb '16

On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 11:43 AM, MZMcBride <z(a)mzmcbride.com> wrote: > One part of this arrangement still confuses me. In the linked post, you > write, "With this grant we brought the idea to the funder and they > supported our work with this grant." > > Why ask for and take the money? The Wikimedia Foundation can raise > $250,000 in a few days (maybe hours) by placing ads on a few large > Wikipedias soliciting donations. Why take on a restricted grant, with its > necessary reporting overhead and other administrative costs? Responding just to this small portion of MZMcBride's email: When I interviewed at the WMF, back in Sue's tenure, I asked pointed questions about the funding model since I was coming from a non-profit which perennially struggled with funding. Sue explained to me that the goal was to have WMF's budget be roughly 50% grants and 50% user contributions to guard against unexpected fragility with either of these funding sources. There is/was the continuing concern that folks accessing wikimedia content through non-traditional sources (google snippets, mobile apps, etc) will not see or respond to a banner campaign, so that sooner or later one of our banner campaigns will come up very short. Further, a reliance on banners for funding creates perverse incentives that discourage us from fully embracing potential users of our content who may bypass the "official" clients and their banner ads. Similarly, from my time at OLPC I saw first hand that economic recession can cause grant sources of funding to dry up seemingly overnight. So to me it seemed very wise not to put all the eggs in a single basket. If grants or banner campaigns came up short, the other side of the funding equation could carry the load while the WMF retooled. This was Sue's explanation. I don't know if this is still the explicit thinking of the current board/ED, but IMO it's still an entirely reasonable rationale for pursuing grant funding, even if the grants come with more "strings attached" than a banner campaign. --scott ps. I'm deliberately not addressing the specifics of the Knight foundation grant here, we can continue that discussion on the original thread. I'm just talking about grant funding in general. -- (http://cscott.net)

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Thanks, likes and progress on Wikimedia Discourse pilot
by Ad Huikeshoven 08 Feb '16

08 Feb '16

Hello readers of wikimedia-l, One of the outcomes of the 'better thankspam' thread was to experiment with a pilot installationg of Discourse. This has been set up at https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ by Erik Bernhardson. In the past weeks a couple of dozen of people have signed in and have been taking a look around. In a recent thread on wikimedia-l Fæ posted results of SQL queries of number of users thanked and number of users thanking on different wikis. On Discourse users can like (by clicking a heart) for individual posts. Number of hearts received and number of hearts given are by default and automatically counted by Discourse, and these numbers are public, see https://discourse.wmflabs.org/users?period=yearly. For the Wikimedia Discourse installation to be a succesful pilot it has to be a real alternative for the wikimedia-l mailing list. Users want to read posts in their mail, and want to be able to reply to posts by mail, without having to visit the site. Users who have signed up at https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ will receive new posts by default in their mailbox. Mail preferences can be individually set. Wikimedia Discourse users can reply by mail to posts received by mail. Members of Wikimedia Discourse can mail new posts. Please let me know if anything is missing at Wikimedia Discourse that the current wikimedia-l mailing list does have. Sign up for an account at https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ to discover the extras Discourse offers. Wikimedia Discourse users can earn barnstars for example, isn't that nice? Please note that by subscribing to the wikimedia-l mailing list your mailing list subscription isn't linked to any account at any Wikimedia wiki, neither is your mail address. For the wikimedia-l mailing list you will have to provide a mail address and after confirmation mailman will mail you a password. If you want to sign up at https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ you will have to provide a mail address and pick a password yourself. Currently their is no link between https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ accounts and any account at any Wikimedia wiki, nor is their link with mail addresses, just like it as with the wikimedia-l mailing list. A phabricator ticket requesting SSO or Oauth 1.0 or Oauth 2.0 can be found at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124691. Currently there are no resources available for writing an Oauth 1.0 plugin for Wikimedia Discourse, neither are there resources available for moving MediaWiki authentification from Oauth 1.0 to Oauth 2.0. As said, SSO or Oauth is a 'nice to have' and doesn't have to block a succesful pilot. Secure communication is a must. The Discourse installation is now configured to default to use SSL, so you will always see https://. Here is a short list of places where the Discourse installation can be discussed: * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Discourse * https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Discourse * https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124690 and of course at the wikimedia-l mailing list and at https://discourse.wmflabs.org/. Best regards, Ad Huikeshoven

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Are Foundation employees represented by
by James Salsman 08 Feb '16

08 Feb '16

Given the initial attribution of the Foundation Board of Trustees indicating that they considered the appointment of an anti-competitive hiring blacklist enforcement manager as a "public relations check" problem, I recommend that Foundation employees immediately join the Union for Non-Profit Workers, IFPTE Local 70: http://ifptelocal70.org/home/ Sincerely, Jim Salsman

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