Wikimedia-l January 2016

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Was the Wikimedia Foundation's removal of membership in 2006 legal?
by WereSpielChequers 27 Jan '16

27 Jan '16

Whether or not the decision against having a membership system was legal, reversing that decision would be a timely and practical way for the WMF to start to reengage with the community. Past concerns that a membership system would require staff are now moot - we have staff. Past concerns as to where one sets the membership fee are now moot - we can afford to waive the fee for those who contribute time. I'm not really keen on the idea of selling any memberships, but it would be good if we could award membership to some of the professors, museum curators, librarians, archivists and others who help our mission without necessarily editing much themselves. Past concerns about privacy are easier to resolve as we now have a structure of chapters and they include ones in countries with very strict privacy laws. So we can have a federal membership system with chapters holding the membership details in specific countries, and anyone suing the WMF to get the membership details of someone who'd blocked them for spamming would then find that all the WMF knew was someone's username - membership details would be held by an independent legal entity in a country with strict privacy laws. A Membership based system would give more protection for community elected trustees. A membership based organisation would formally be a global not for profit at the intersection of education, culture, free knowledge and open licensing; not a Silicon Valley tech entity. A membership based organisation would have better defences against being "commercialised". Regards Jonathan/WereSpielChequers >> Dear friends, >> >> Recent events have made me curious to learn more about the Wikimedia >> Foundation's origins and history as a membership organization. The >> revelations about the Wikimedia Foundation Board elections being a >> recommendation for appointment rather than a direct vote seem to have been >> a surprise to many of us, and almost ten years after membership was >> eliminated, we see strongly suggestive "directly elected" language still >> being fixed on the Foundation's own Board elections page.[1] >> >> It turns out that this history is colorful, the Foundation was a membership >> organization from 2003-2006 and Board seats were indeed, originally, >> intended to be directly elected by member-Wikimedians. It seems that the >> membership issue was never quite resolved. I've put some of my notes on >> metawiki, please forward to any wiki historians who might be interested in >> throwing their weight on a shovel. >> >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_membership_controversy >> >> As a current WMF staff member, and having received a formal scolding two >> weeks ago for expressing my professional and personal opinions on this >> list--that a hierarchical corporate structure is completely inappropriate >> and ineffectual for running the Foundation--I don't feel safe >> editorializing about what membership could mean for the future of the >> Wikimedia movement. But I would be thrilled to see this discussion take >> place, and to contribute however I am able. >> >> A note to fellow staff: Anything you can say about this history is most >> likely protected speech under the Sarbanes-Oxley Act, since we're asking >> whether state and federal laws were violated. >> >> In solidarity, >> Adam Wight >> [[mw:User:Adamw]] >> >> [1] >>

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message from Arnnon Geshuri to the Wikimedia Community
by billinghurst 27 Jan '16

27 Jan '16

I appreciate that you have responded to the community outcry, though I fear that the flowery rhetoric was not only lost on me, it also seems to be obfusacting on the serious matters raised. The substantial matters themselves rated a direct mention or a skerrick of acknowledgement. I believe that the community has clearly expressed that while you may have a significant HR/P&C background, the dark shadow that you drag into the Wikimedia is not one which a sizeable proportion of interested and knowledgeable participants believes outweighs a clear, untarnished integrity [1] >From your people management background, you cannot seriously have us believe that And you may be the fall guy / scapegoat / ...for the board's short-sighted appointment / inexacting process / evident lack of diligence; however, that may be the role that you need to take so that the Board can get the clear air to regain the trust that it has lost. Until that time we peasants may well be revolting. Who knows, this time maybe we can create a white-out, rather than a black-out.[2][3] Risk-denial, risk-blindness and obstinacy are not traits that I see as valuable in members of boards. Further, I believe that there would surely be candidates with similar people management credentials who don't have the dead weight. That they may not have worked for Google, be male, or be in the Bay area may be a problem, ... oh no ... maybe not! Be pragmatic, it is clearly time for pragmatism. Please resign, as at this time the hole has been dug by you and others has broken through to the other side you have no base, there is no real return. Regards, Billinghurst [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Requests_for_comment/Vote_of_n… currently running at 263 no confidence votes, compared to 21. noting that ref includes significant number of voices of clear reason and office holders, senior and highly trusted volunteers within the WMF movement who have a demonstrated history of intent, and integrity. [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_SOPA_and_PIPA [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SOPA_initiative

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Affiliations Committee appointments, January 2016
by Mohammed Bachounda 27 Jan '16

27 Jan '16

congratulations to all new members and re-appointed members. > Hello everyone, > > I'm pleased to announce that, following the recent call for applications, > the following candidates have been appointed to seats on the Affiliations > Committee: > > - Salvador Alcantar Morán (re-appointment) > - Carlos M. Colina (re-appointment) > - Galileo Vidoni (re-appointment) > - Emna Mizouni > - Tanweer Morshed > - Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight > > The newly appointed (and re-appointed) members will serve two-year terms, > ending in December 2017. > > On behalf of the Affiliations Committee, I would like to thank each of the > applicants, as well as all of the community members who took the time to > offer their feedback on the candidates during the public review process. > > Regards, > Kirill Lokshin > Affiliations Committee -- *Mohammed Bachounda* Leader Wikimedia Algérie UG

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New board for Wikimedia Belgium
by Romaine Wiki 26 Jan '16

26 Jan '16

Hello all, We as Wikimedia Belgium now have a new board installed with the General Assembly of Saturday 23 January 2016. Three board members leave (due time constraints): * MADe - our hard working president who focussed on the goal of founding Wikimedia Belgium and he did! * M0tty - our vice president who is one of the founders and collaborated with the Mundaneum. * Dimi z - our international liaison and one of the founders and is the face to the European politicians in Brussels. All three remain active for Wikimedia Belgium in an advisory role for the board. Thank you MADe, M0tty & Dimi z for your work the past years! Two board members come in: * SPQRobin - member of the Wikimedia language committee, developer, and long term Wikipedia editor. * Lfurter - graphic designer, researcher, curator, and organiser of multiple Wikimedia events. Welcome SPQRobin & Lfurter! Also a new president of our chapter has been elected. This is now Geertivp. Geertivp had in the board the role of secretary, which included a performance on Belgian television last week. Thank you for your work as secretary and success with the role as president! SPQRobin takes over the role of secretary from Geertivp. Romaine

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Meta is apparently down
by Pharos 26 Jan '16

26 Jan '16

https://meta.wikimedia.org/ Thanks, Pharos

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Evidence supporting my statements
by James Heilman 26 Jan '16

26 Jan '16

Following the recent statements by JW on his talk page I am planning to publish my email to the board from Oct 7, 2015. I have given the board some time to redact anything they feel is confidential. I have also requested they send me information of what statute, bylaw, or board handbook item they feel would make details, if any, confidential. Additionally I do not see anything in Jimmy’s 12/30 email that should be confidential, and since I was not a Trustee at the time he sent it, clearly he did not consider it highly confidential either. But I prefer not to publish it without his consent, and I have no plans to do so. I hope for a reply from the board by Feb 8 and plan to release the email on Feb 15th. -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine www.opentextbookofmedicine.com

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Reliable sources list validation for StrepHit
by Marco Fossati 26 Jan '16

26 Jan '16

Hi everyone, The curated list of biographical sources for StrepHit has now passed the objective of 40 items [1]. Your help in validating the list is essential to ensure the reliability of the corpus that will be collected upon it. In practice, are the sources: 1. *reliable* (cf. [2])? 2. *third-party*, i.e., not created by users of Wikimedia projects? I kindly ask you to answer those questions in the discussion page of [1]. Cheers, Marco [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/StrepHit:_Wikidata_Statements_Va… [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability#Reliable_sources

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Affiliations Committee appointments, January 2016
by Samir Elsharbaty 26 Jan '16

26 Jan '16

Congrats to all new members! On Jan 24, 2016 8:31 PM, "Kirill Lokshin" <kirill.lokshin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I'm pleased to announce that, following the recent call for applications, > the following candidates have been appointed to seats on the Affiliations > Committee: > > - Salvador Alcantar Morán (re-appointment) > - Carlos M. Colina (re-appointment) > - Galileo Vidoni (re-appointment) > - Emna Mizouni > - Tanweer Morshed > - Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight > > The newly appointed (and re-appointed) members will serve two-year terms, > ending in December 2017. > > On behalf of the Affiliations Committee, I would like to thank each of the > applicants, as well as all of the community members who took the time to > offer their feedback on the candidates during the public review process. > > Regards, > Kirill Lokshin > Affiliations Committee > > _______________________________________________ > Please note: all replies sent to this mailing list will be immediately > directed to Wikimedia-l, the public mailing list of the Wikimedia > community. For more information about Wikimedia-l: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > _______________________________________________ > WikimediaAnnounce-l mailing list > WikimediaAnnounce-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaannounce-l > >

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Smartphone editing
by olatunde isaac 25 Jan '16

25 Jan '16

Distinguish Wikipedians, I earlier thought I'm probably the only Wikipedian who edit and create articles with smartphone until I saw User:Cullen328's essay on "Smartphone editing" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cullen328/Smartphone_editing). Although, I have a personal computer but there are millions of people out there who do not have their own personal computer. we do not all live in suburbia with unlimited access to computers. I can say that almost everyone have access to smartphones (Android, Blackberry etc). I created over 500 articles with smartphone, 9 of the articles featured on DYK and I promoted one of the articles to GA status. I hope that this will help motivate public intellectuals, Wikimedia outreach coordinators, Wikipedia education managers and opinion leaders who explain Wikipedia editing to the general public to acknowledge that editing by smartphone is practical for those who are interested, even if it is not every editor's cup of tea and outreach to new editors should include positive information about smartphone editing per user:Cullen328's essay. Warm regards, Olatunde Isaac. Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from MTN -----Original Message----- From: wikimedia-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org Sender: "Wikimedia-l" <wikimedia-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org>Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 17:28:43 To: <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Reply-To: wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 142, Issue 142 Send Wikimedia-l mailing list submissions to wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wikimedia-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at wikimedia-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Wikimedia-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Happy Magnus Manske Day! (Steinsplitter Wiki) 2. Re: Profile of Magnus Manske (Andreas Kolbe) 3. Re: Profile of Magnus Manske (Gerard Meijssen) 4. Re: Profile of Magnus Manske (Andreas Kolbe) 5. Re: Profile of Magnus Manske (Gerard Meijssen) 6. Re: Profile of Magnus Manske (Gerard Meijssen) 7. Re: Profile of Magnus Manske (Jane Darnell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 13:33:54 +0100 From: Steinsplitter Wiki <steinsplitter-wiki(a)live.com> To: "wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org" <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Happy Magnus Manske Day! Message-ID: <DUB124-W2B29FBDE6E8FD515EB9F6E6C70(a)phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Magnus moved Wikipedia forward by coding mediawiki. And he is still creating useful tools. Thanks Magnus for your hard work! We can be proud to have Magnus in the Wikimedia movement. --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Magnus_Manske_Day -- ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 13:55:53 +0000 From: Andreas Kolbe <jayen466(a)gmail.com> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske Message-ID: <CAHRTtW_5fQMfevRyf4Ve78=8DQh0Hb03p+DOgTdSuhJ+DWO_jg(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Magnus Manske <magnusmanske(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > What you hear is "Wikidata is unreliable" (compared to the respective > Wikipedia; proof, anyone? Please, show me proof; silence or anecdotes don't > count) Any non-trivial content you want to add to Wikipedia today has to fulfil one basic criterion: that the content be traceable to a professionally published source. Most Wikidata content fails that criterion.[1] It's blooming obvious that Wikidata is "unreliable" according to Wikipedia's definition of a "reliable source", isn't it?[2] [1] https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/stats.php [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:SPS ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 15:32:14 +0100 From: Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske Message-ID: <CAO53wxXzKo6_ZP-5Yty-F4rhD=iPOa6u+ttCZsV=2uFixVrh0w(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hoi, Maybe.. but not all Wikipedias are the same. It is verifiable that Wikipedia would easily benefit from Wikidata from Wikidata by replacing the existing links and red links with functionality that uses Wikidata. It happens often that I work on content in Wikipedia and find an error rate of 20%. When you check Wikidata for its quality I expect it to be much better than 90%. It is blooming obvious that Wikipedians only see fault elsewhere and are forgiving for the error in their own way. Thanks, GerardM On 25 January 2016 at 14:55, Andreas Kolbe <jayen466(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Magnus Manske < > magnusmanske(a)googlemail.com> > wrote: > > > What you hear is "Wikidata is unreliable" (compared to the respective > > Wikipedia; proof, anyone? Please, show me proof; silence or anecdotes > don't > > count) > > > > Any non-trivial content you want to add to Wikipedia today has to fulfil > one basic criterion: that the content be traceable to a professionally > published source. > > Most Wikidata content fails that criterion.[1] It's blooming obvious that > Wikidata is "unreliable" according to Wikipedia's definition of a "reliable > source", isn't it?[2] > > [1] https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/stats.php > [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:SPS > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 15:11:26 +0000 From: Andreas Kolbe <jayen466(a)gmail.com> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske Message-ID: <CAHRTtW-_-3Tf7ED=0zipLTiCQMKRziVScVj2gGoqyKFrRZCM3A(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:32 PM, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > It happens often that I work on content in Wikipedia and find an error rate > of 20%. Could you give some specific examples of such cases, with links to the relevant article versions? Andreas ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 17:29:49 +0100 From: Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske Message-ID: <CAO53wxX7zu=sQ61ToNML=L-90HPJH=J6Zf-3Oz9HDYoBEMVy7A(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hoi, I regularly blog. It was mentioned in one of my blogposts [1].. By the way the obvious would be to do some research yourself. Paper tigers [2] are those tigers that rely on what others have to say, Thanks., GerardM [1] http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2016/01/wikipedia-recovery-and-mental-he… [2] http://www.letusdiy.org/uploads/userup/0911/3000041GC2.jpg On 25 January 2016 at 16:11, Andreas Kolbe <jayen466(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:32 PM, Gerard Meijssen < > gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > It happens often that I work on content in Wikipedia and find an error > rate > > of 20%. > > > > Could you give some specific examples of such cases, with links to the > relevant article versions? > > Andreas > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 17:32:00 +0100 From: Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske Message-ID: <CAO53wxUrgr1dOugea3xx+DW0X9m3SbXx9MZVEe38Tm8_ndSpbQ(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hoi, Eh, wrong link ... http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2016/01/wikipedia-20-error-rate.html On 25 January 2016 at 17:29, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hoi, > I regularly blog. It was mentioned in one of my blogposts [1].. By the way > the obvious would be to do some research yourself. Paper tigers [2] are > those tigers that rely on what others have to say, > Thanks., > GerardM > > > [1] > http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2016/01/wikipedia-recovery-and-mental-he… > [2] http://www.letusdiy.org/uploads/userup/0911/3000041GC2.jpg > > On 25 January 2016 at 16:11, Andreas Kolbe <jayen466(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:32 PM, Gerard Meijssen < >> gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > >> > It happens often that I work on content in Wikipedia and find an error >> rate >> > of 20%. >> >> >> >> Could you give some specific examples of such cases, with links to the >> relevant article versions? >> >> Andreas >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >> New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> >> > > ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 18:28:40 +0100 From: Jane Darnell <jane023(a)gmail.com> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske Message-ID: <CAFVcA-E0HwX+9e4nG3hgjk7ewSxgoQW-Xo=jYVZ7RY95cYzpMw(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Actually I think Wikidata is sourced more thoroughly than any single Wikipedia. Looking at the last chart in those stats, less than 10% of all items have zero sitelinks, and we can't see in the stats whether 100% of those have zero referenced statements, but I would assume that is not the case, especially since items with zero sitelinks and zero internal Wikidata links tend to be "cleaned up and deleted". At least one sitelink means the item is coming from a Wikipedia, and therefore the Wikipedia article will have references that could be used in the Wikidata item and just haven't been added yet. Of all the items with zero or just one statement, I expect a great deal of these to be linked to categories, disambiguation pages, or lists, as these types of items generally only contain one statement. Also, we currently have no way to count unreferenced statements in Wikipedia articles, but there are very few Wikipedia articles that have at least one reference per sentence. So concluding that any single unreferenced statement no matter how many other referenced statements there are in the item brings an entire Wikidata item into the "untrustworthy zone" is just silly. On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hoi, > Maybe.. but not all Wikipedias are the same. It is verifiable that > Wikipedia would easily benefit from Wikidata from Wikidata by replacing the > existing links and red links with functionality that uses Wikidata. > > It happens often that I work on content in Wikipedia and find an error rate > of 20%. When you check Wikidata for its quality I expect it to be much > better than 90%. > > It is blooming obvious that Wikipedians only see fault elsewhere and are > forgiving for the error in their own way. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 25 January 2016 at 14:55, Andreas Kolbe <jayen466(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Magnus Manske < > > magnusmanske(a)googlemail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > What you hear is "Wikidata is unreliable" (compared to the respective > > > Wikipedia; proof, anyone? Please, show me proof; silence or anecdotes > > don't > > > count) > > > > > > > > Any non-trivial content you want to add to Wikipedia today has to fulfil > > one basic criterion: that the content be traceable to a professionally > > published source. > > > > Most Wikidata content fails that criterion.[1] It's blooming obvious that > > Wikidata is "unreliable" according to Wikipedia's definition of a > "reliable > > source", isn't it?[2] > > > > [1] https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/stats.php > > [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:SPS > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ------------------------------ End of Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 142, Issue 142 *********************************************

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Happy Magnus Manske Day!
by Steinsplitter Wiki 25 Jan '16

25 Jan '16

Magnus moved Wikipedia forward by coding mediawiki. And he is still creating useful tools. Thanks Magnus for your hard work! We can be proud to have Magnus in the Wikimedia movement. --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Magnus_Manske_Day --

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