I can see the merit of having a central repository for interwiki
links, currently an article like Barack Obama exists on well over a
hundred versions of Wikipedia, so when each of the hundred projects
that doesn't currently have such an article creates one there will be
over a hundred bot edits to update all the other projects. As the
smaller wikis create articles for core subjects articles with >100
interwiki links will become more and more common, having just two
edits, one to the repository and one to the new article would be much
Assuming the central repository points both ways, it would also become
easier to split apart groups where interwiki links are linking
different people. I probably fix one or two of these a month that come
up as anomalies via the
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Death_anomalies_table At present if you
have two people of the same name with articles on 7 projects you have
to edit all 7 projects to split them into two projects with an article
on one person and five with an article on the other, whilst with a
central repository you would only need three edits, one centrally and
two to the articles you were separating out.
But how would this process handle situations such as the EN wiki
article [[David Armstrong-Jones, Viscount Linley]] having an interwiki
link to the DE article on his late mother? Currently this comes up as
a death anomaly because one is living but the other deceased. Would
the central repository handle such linking by showing such links as
redirected, or would we continue to have such anomalies? Or would DE
wiki consider it an error to link these two articles?
> On 21/03/11 09:27, Andre Engels wrote:
>> I guess I'm awfully inadequate at that then... Moving interwikis to a
>> separate site is something that I first proposed back in 2002
>> (although then saying it was 'something for the (far?) future'), that
>> has many community members and I think also developers behind it, and
>> yet it's 2011 now, and it still seems that it will not be there in the
>> near future.
> This idea still have my support Andre!
> Ashar Voultoiz
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 09:31:15 +0100
> From: Lodewijk <lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org>
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] [Announce-l]
> Wikim?dia France report for July - December 2010
> To: foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> Cc: Adrienne Alix <adrienne.alix(a)gmail.com>
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> Wow Adrienne,
> thanks a lot for the helpful overview. It is very enlighting for
> understanding what WMFR has been doing!
> 2011/3/23 Adrienne Alix <adrienne.alix(a)gmail.com>
>> Dear Chapters,
>> Please find below the chapter report of Wikim?dia France for July, August,
>> September, October, November and December 2010.
>> It is also available on Meta <
>> == Partnerships ==
>> === French National Library ? BnF ===
>> After several years of talks, a partnership was concluded between Wikim?dia
>> France and the French National Library (Biblioth?que nationale de France).
>> Signed in April 2010, it consisted of two parts. First, an experiment in
>> collaborative proofreading taking place on Wikisource, with the donation of
>> 1400 books in the public domain, including scans and OCR text (automatically
>> generated during the digitization process and prone to many errors,
>> especially with old texts). Second, the exploitation of the authority files
>> of the Library on Wikimedia projects.
>> A team of three chapter members undertook the technical work. Three board
>> members oversaw their work, acting as a steering committee, and interfaced
>> with the Library staff; one acted as a Library Science and Wikisource
>> advisor. Their work consisted in an extensive study of the formats used by
>> the BnF and on Wikisource, and in the design and creation of a production
>> line for the material. This line had to be able to sustain the sheer load of
>> 1400 books, and handled the analysis and processing of metadata, format
>> conversions, smart trimming and cropping of the scans, and preparation of a
>> deliverable for the final upload to Wikimedia Commons. Because of the number
>> and size of books, the actual upload was requested to WMF system
>> administrator Tim Starling and was done in July.
>> After that, the team produced various documents, help pages, project
>> reports for the chapter, and a progress report. This last document contains
>> fairly advanced statistical analysis of the characteristics of the
>> proofreaders body, and the work done, making use of mathematical tools to
>> measure the amount of work accomplished during the proofreading process.
>> See the the hub-page on Meta <
>> === City of Toulouse ===
>> As part of the partnership with the City of Toulouse, signed in October
>> 2010, two projects were undertaken with local cultural institutions.
>> The first one, named Ph?bus project, was with the Mus?um of Toulouse. It
>> involved mobilizing Wikimedians to take high-quality photographs of objects
>> in the non-permanent collections of paleontology and prehistory. The
>> photographs taken in June by volunteers Rama and Ludovic were uploaded in
>> November, and join the ones uploaded by Didier Descouens in April.
>> More than 450 documents are available on Wikimedia Commons, many of which
>> were assessed Featured Pictures, Quality Images or Valued Images.
>> See on Wikimedia Commons the project page <
>> and the images <
>> The second project involved the Archives of the City of Toulouse, who
>> contributed digitised photographs by its former curator, French naturalist,
>> mountaineer, geologist and photographer Eug?ne Trutat. A Wikim?dia France
>> volunteer processed the extensive metadata provided by the Archives, in
>> order to fit it into Wikimedia Commons auto-translated templates and provide
>> accurate categorisation.
>> The 200 resulting files hit Commons in December.
>> See on Wikimedia Commons the project page <
>> the images <
>> and brief Signpost coverage <
>> == Rencontres Wikim?dia 2010 ==
>> On 3?4 December, Wikim?dia France organised the ? Rencontres Wikim?dia
>> 2010 ? in Paris, in an annex of the Palais Bourbon, the building of the
>> French National Assembly. The event aimed to gather "as many cultural actors
>> as possible to discuss new online collaborative practices and opportunities
>> to take free access to culture a step further". The conference was part of
>> the Glam-Wiki series, and included a series of talks and panels given by
>> wikimedians, professionals from the cultural sector, local representatives,
>> and representatives of government cultural agencies.
>> See the detailed Signpost coverage <
>> and Wikim?dia France blog posts<
>> == Activities ==
>> === Participation to international Wikimedia events ===
>> ==== GlamWiki UK ====
>> Five members of the chapter and staff Bastien Guerry attended the GlamWiki
>> conference in London. They gave two talks, about the partnership with the
>> French National Library and about the partnership with the City of Toulouse.
>> ==== Wikimania 2010 ====
>> Twelve chapter members (including four board members and one staff)
>> attended the conference in Gda?sk in July.
>> === Presentations, conferences, workshops ===
>> ==== Novela Festival ====
>> On October 2nd, the partnership between Wikim?dia France and the City of
>> Toulouse was made public and signed during the inauguration of the ?digital?
>> side of the Novela, the festival of shared knowledge. During the whole
>> afternoon, we showed the public the genesis and the contents of the
>> partnership which ties us to the City of Toulouse, and took that opportunity
>> to raise awareness about free dissemination of knowledge.
>> The afternoon began with the signature of the partnership, between Pierre
>> Cohen, Mayor of Toulouse, and Wikim?dia France. It continued with joint
>> presentations of institutional actors of this partnership and Wikimedians
>> Didier Descouens, president of the Institut Picot de Lapeyrouse,
>> paleontology enthusiast, Wikimedian and a driving force behind this
>> partnership since 2009, presented the terms and the value of the
>> partnership. Pierre Gastou and Catherine Bernard, from the Archives of the
>> City of Toulouse, presented their vision of the partnership involving
>> uploading on Wikimedia Commons a collection of photographs from Eug?ne
>> Trutat, taken in the early twentieth century. Pierre Gastou presented Eug?ne
>> Trutat and the collection (ethnography and daily life, collections of the
>> Museum of Toulouse and monuments) and their historical significance.
>> Catherine Bernard explained how this partnership is part of a wider project
>> of digitisation and connection between archives and the Internet.
>> Wikimedian Rama presented Wikimedia Commons, explaining the organisation of
>> the project, what it contains and how to contribute, and demonstrated the
>> importance of free and open licenses for the dissemination of culture. He
>> relied particularly on the report that Wikim?dia France provided two years
>> ago to the Ministry of Culture on the subject. Ludovic P?ron ended the
>> afternoon by showing the work done on the Wikimedia projects about the
>> historical monuments, and the rise of this project bringing together more
>> and more Wikimedians. It aims to identify, photograph, geotag and describe
>> as many historical monuments as possible, in France and abroad, to provide a
>> coherent and reusable body of knowledge.
>> ==== Other events ====
>> RMLL ? July 2010, Bordeaux
>> As every year since 2005, Wikimedia France was at the ''Rencontres
>> mondiales du logiciel libre'' in Bordeaux, from July 6 to 10. Nojhan gave a
>> 20 minute talk titled "What's really in Wikipedia?" (''? Qu?y a-t-il
>> vraiment dans Wikip?dia ? ?''), and several members held the booth during
>> five days.
>> JMLL ? September 2010, Rouen
>> During the ''Journ?e Mondiales du Logiciel Libre'', David gave a talk about
>> the MediaWiki software and how it can be used, with the example of the
>> Wikimedia projects.
>> Grande Braderie ? September 2010, Lille
>> several members held a display and answered queries at the world's biggest
>> open air market
>> 9e forum E-culture ? September 2010, Lausanne
>> Florence Devouard presented Wikipedia at the ''9e forum E-culture'' in
>> Lausanne, on September 8, 2010. The meeting was about "''Netizenship -
>> citoyennet? num?rique et cyberintimidation''"
>> Biblioth?que du Chesnay ? September 2010, Chesnay
>> Thierry gave a conference on Wikipedia on September 21, 2010 followed on
>> Saturday and Wednesdsay by two workshops by Benjamin et Thierry.
>> Open-air conference
>> On September 29 2010, asked by local association "Carrefour culturel Arnaud
>> Bernard" (by the name of a city district), Adrienne Alix gave an open-air
>> talk, right in the district square; many passers-by stopped to listen to the
>> Festival des sciences ? October 2010, Acign?
>> Nicolas gave a talk in October at the multimedia library of Acign?
>> (Ille-et-Vilaine), as part of ''Festival des sciences'' ("Science
>> festival"). The conference was followed by a workshop, with four other
>> chapter members helping the attendees.
>> Ubuntu Party ? November 2010
>> In Paris, several members held a booth and answered queries during the
>> Ubuntu Party. Thierry gave a presentation about Wikipedia, and Aude held a
>> workshop for middle-school students as part of a project to help young
>> people understand the Internet.
>> In Toulouse, four members held a booth on Saturday 20, and Adrienne gave a
>> talk titled 'Beyond software: free licenses as a mean to disseminate
>> Talk at the CEMAF ? November 2010, Paris
>> As part of an ongoing project with the ''Centre d'?tudes des mondes
>> africains'', a CNRS laboratory, Kropotkine_113 gave a talk to researchers
>> and PhD students. The CEMAF members are looking into contributing to
>> Wikipedia, and the chapter will help by holding workshops in 2011.
>> Contact with the IT department of the multimedia libraries of Paris ?
>> November 2010, Paris
>> Following several contacts with the multimedia libraries of Paris, Julien
>> presented the Wikimedia projects and the chapter works to the IT department.
>> Congr?s RESTART ? November 2010, Lisboa (Portugal)
>> Florence gave a keynote during the APDC<http://congresso10.apdc.pt/>, as
>> part of the session "Digital Natives & Crowd Sourcing".
>> == Media interventions ==
>> *October 23 : Thierry was invited on national radio network RTL for a radio
>> debate. It was moderated by journalist and author Patrick Poivre d'Arvor,
>> and the other invitee was the director of Who's Who. The talk lasted for
>> about ten minutes, and was focused on the issues with Biographies of living
>> persons on Wikipedia
>> *December 5 : Florence Devouard was invited on TV show ''Vivement
>> dimanche'' on France 2 <http://youtu.be/-66RWWVGfqI>, presented by Michel
>> Drucker and with politician Fran?ois Bayrou.
>> *December 20 : Adrienne Alix talked about the fundraiser on national radio
>> network Europe 1
>> == Workgroups ==
>> === Strengthening of communication with members ===
>> At the end of the year, a taskforce was set up to focus on writing the
>> monthly newsletter to the chapter members. It also contributes to the
>> chapter annual report, due to be published early 2011.
>> === Promotional documents ===
>> A complete revamp of the promotional documents was undertaken this year. It
>> gained great momentum when Beno?t Evellin worked for the chapter as part of
>> an internship during the month of August. Most of the work was wrapped-up
>> for the Rencontres Wikim?dia.
>> The documents created include:
>> *leaflets for Wikim?dia France and for each Wikimedia project ;
>> *a booklet aiming to introduce the chapter, the Wikimedia projects and
>> previous partnerships to institutions ;
>> *a small reference guide summing up in 10 key-points how to edit Wikipedia
>> *chapter business cards.
>> === Photographs & accreditations ===
>> ==== Photo workshop in Paris ====
>> On September 4 and 5, 2010, a photo workshop organised by Rama, and
>> financially supported by the chapter, was held in the Cit? des Sciences et
>> de l'Industrie in Paris. The workshop was primarily intended for Wikipedia
>> and Commons contributors to share their experiences, but was also open to
>> the general public. The event gathered around thirty people, mainly
>> Wikimedians, and was livetweeted with the hashtag #wikiphoto.
>> On the first afternoon, several Commons contributors gave presentations on
>> specific aspects of photography. Inisheer taught the basics of photographic
>> composition; Ceridwen talked about licenses and personality rights; esby
>> explained the techniques used to create panoramas. As part of a "Museum"
>> track, Jastrow made a general presentation about museum photography, and Zil
>> focused on techniques used to take pictures of paintings. The last track was
>> about photojournalism, with Rama and Ceridwen talking about concert
>> photography and Ludo29 and Inisheer about sport events.
>> On the second day, after Ludo29 explained how to begin with a digital
>> reflex camera, several workshops were held, about various subjects such as
>> image editing, panoramas or macrophotography. In the afternoon, the
>> contributors strode the streets of Paris, trying out their new-found
>> knowledge, particularly on listed historical monuments. Some of the pictures
>> taken can be found on Wikimedia Commons. As many more contributors were
>> interested and as early feedback is very positive, a new edition is already
>> being planned.
>> See Wikim?dia France blog post <
>> and Signpost coverage <
>> ==== North Cape raid ====
>> In July, members Ludovic and Fanny took part in the "Raid Paris ? Cap
>> Nord", a photographic challenge where competitors are ranked by a jury on
>> the basis of the pictures they take during the trip. The journey starts in
>> Paris, goes through Finland, Sweden and Norway, up to North Cape in Norway,
>> the northernmost point of Europe, and ends back in Paris. Over the four
>> weeks, the raiders drove 12,000 km in a car branded with the logos of
>> Wikipedia, Wikimedia Commons and Wikim?dia France. The French chapter
>> provided financial support.
>> See Signpost coverage <
>> and Wikim?dia France blog post <
>> ==== Other events ====
>> The chapter helped with getting accreditations for members for many events.
>> *Festival de Cornouaille ? July 2010, Quimper
>> *Biblioth?que Sainte-Barbe ? June, Paris
>> *O Tour de la Bulle ? September 2010, Montpellier
>> *Mondial de l'automobile ? October 2010, Paris
>> - Masquer le texte des messages pr?c?dents -
>> *Toulouse Game Show ? November 2010, Toulouse
>> === Fundraising ===
>> Wikimedia France participated in the annual fundraiser of the Wikimedia
>> All revenue data mentionned below are (good) approximations.
>> November 2010
>> *Total amount fundraised : 241 171 euros
>> *Total number of donations : 6196 (including 254 in checks)
>> December 2010
>> *Total amount fundraised : 227 422 euros
>> *Total number of donations : 5382 (including 418 in checks)
>> January 2011
>> *Total amount fundraised : 22 775 euros
>> *Total number of donations : 619 (including 116 in checks)
>> Fundraising was organised largely with volunteers, with the administrative
>> support of a freelance secretary, Elisabeth (who has been working for
>> Wikim?dia France since the summer of 2009).
>> Wikim?dia France does not use (yet) a CRM such as CiviCRM (data is
>> collected using a spreadsheet).
>> Link to the donation platform <http://dons.wikimedia.fr/dons.php
>> == Wikim?dia France blog posts summary ==
>> === July ===
>> The Wikimobile towards North Cape <
>> The Royal Cup bridges Wikipedia and the British Museum<
>> Wikisource gains books donated by the BnF<
>> === August ===
>> September 4: a photo workshop for Wikimedia Commons<
>> === September ===
>> Google Health Speaks ? Google wants to translate Wikipedia articles about
>> health in Arab, Indian and Swahili<
>> National monuments have pride of place on the Dutch-language Wikipedia <
>> Enriching Wikipedia: the European Heritage Days<
>> Wikimedia Foundation: various information <
>> Wikim?dia France welcomed at the Sainte-Barbe Library<
>> Rencontres Wikim?dia 2010 take place on December 3 and 4 at the 101 rue de
>> l?Universit? (Paris)<
>> Live-watch the creation of the millionth article of the French speaking
>> Wikipedia reaches one million articles in French!<
>> === October ===
>> Umberto Eco, Wikipedia, and collaborative editing<
>> Wikim?dia France signs an agreement with the City of Toulouse<
>> The Rencontres Wikim?dia 2010 website is live<
>> Wikim?dia France at the Novela: recap of the partnership with the City of
>> Rencontres Wikim?dia 2010: subscriptions opening<
>> === November ===
>> GLAM-WIKI:UK conference announcement<
>> Open Street Map appears on Wikipedia articles<
>> Wikipedia, Michel Houellebecq and the ''droit d?auteur'' (copyright).<
>> === December ===
>> Wikim?dia France at GLAM-WIKI:UK<
>> ==== Rencontres Wikimedia 2010 series ====
>> Event introduction<
>> Wikimedia projects presentation<
>> Presentation of Wikimedia and its objectives for 2015<
>> The partnership with the French National Library<
>> Cultural partnerships with Wikimedia in the world<
>> The partnership between Wikim?dia France and Toulouse<
>> National monuments on Wikipedia: outcome of Wiki Loves Monuments<
>> == Contributors ==
>> * Contributors to the monthly newsletter in French (from which this report
>> is derived) in July-August-September-October-November-December: Bzg,
>> Jean-Fr?d?ric, Ash Crow, Thesupermat, Trizek, VIGNERON, Ludo29, Bapti,
>> Zetud, Serein, (:Julien:), TCY, Crochet.david, David Berardan, Kropotkine
>> 113, Gdgourou, Citron, Pymouss, O2
>> * Contributors to this chapter report : Jean-Fr?d?ric, Bapti, Ofol,
>> Gribeco, Anthere, notafish
>> Adrienne Alix
>> Pr?sidente | Wikimedia France
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On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Thomas Goldammer <thogol(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
> Why don't we just write in our respective native language, all of us.
> XD Would make communication much funnier, I guess. :p
I agree, that it would be funnier, but I doubt most folk on
foundation-l will agree.
Do we have a multilingual mailing list?
I think it would be a good idea to have a general discussion list
where anyone, especially newbies, can write in their preferred
Someone in our community is sure to understand and be able to respond.
The Wikimedia Board of Trustees just completed its two-day meeting 
this weekend in Berlin. We devoted the longest time to discussing
declining trends in editing activity and our collective response to it.
I encourage everyone to review Sue’s March update , and the editor
trends study itself . It is a deeply important topic, and each report
is only a few pages long.
The Board thinks this is the most significant challenge currently facing
our movement. We would encourage the whole movement - the communities,
wikiprojects, Chapters, Board, Foundation staff - to think about ways to
meet this challenge. We know many contributors care about this and have
worked on outreach and hospitality in past years. We are considering how
we can help make such work more effective, and ask for suggestions from
the community to this problem now and to invite discussion and
Member of the Board of Trustees
Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
You might have heard of Wiki Loves Monuments, an event destined to
populate Wikimedia Commons with photos of listed monuments across the
world. The 2011 edition is centered on Europe, but this is a movement
wide/worldwide event, and we'd like to have a logo that fits both the
ambitions of the project and reflect how fun it may be to participate.
Therefore, a logo contest has been opened to get a great logo for Wiki
The contest opens NOW, and logos can be submitted until the 17th of
April 23.59 UTC.
Voting will start on the 18th of April at 0:00 UTC. (we'll ping you
again when it's time).
Please distribute widely in your language communities and let your
The contest page with rules and how to submit your logo can be found here:
Submissions are here for your perusal:
NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will get lost.
Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive - http://blog.notanendive.org
Photos with simple eyes: notaphoto - http://photo.notafish.org
I'd have to say the enjoyment of cutting sarcasm is an important way in
which the community fosters the atmosphere we are concerned about.
Certainly it's something where I would admit some personal guilt.
On 3/28/2011 3:17 PM, Virgilio A. P. Machado wrote:
> Best post I have read in a long time.
> At 20:10 28-03-2011, you wrote:
>> Ah there is the reason, the sum of all human knowledge is approaching
>> completion. Well done to all.
This issue, in a New York Times article, is relevant to us also.
Most recently we visited this issue with the 2011 Chinese protests
article on the English Wikipedia where our article could easily have been
more influential than anything that was happening in China. There were
also issues with this on the Chinese Wikipedia, but I don't know details.