[[Please distribute widely to various language communities, projects,
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Hi All,
I'd like to begin a conversation about the 2010-2011 Fundraiser, which
isn't slated to launch for a few months, but for which we'd like to
get community involvement early and often. As you no doubt are aware,
the strategic plan calls for the "many small gifts" model to be the
centerpiece of our funding strategy, so our community fundraiser is
one of the key methods by which we finance and underwrite the
operations of the projects. The fundraiser this year will probably,
as in earlier years, be primarily banner driven. We're going to have
a strong emphasis on testing and iterating ideas, with a defined
methodological testing plan.
But the most important part of what we - all of us - are going to need
to do is what this community has always been good at: thinking,
researching, and iterating.
With that in mind, it's important to identify people who want to
help. Of course, anyone's welcome to join in and help at any time,
but there's a definite need for people who are willing to be deeply
involved from now to the wrap up... people who want to be creative but
rigorous, innovative but willing to learn from the past, and most of
all, to serve as an active part of the team working on this
fundraiser. There will, of course, be Foundation staff deeply
involved in this, but there's a real need for people from the
community to step up and help us design this thing.
If you're willing to help, would you add your name to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2010/Committee
? We'll be in contact - soon - to get things started.
Thanks,
Philippe
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Not sure were to ask this...
A group of 20 of us from Wikiproject Medicine are working on a paper to
explain the usage of Wikipedia to the medical community. We were working on
it in Google documents but they have made some changes to their software
that makes it nearly unusable.
We wish to return to working in the wiki environment but need to do so in a
closed environment until after publication. Anyone here able to set
something like this up for us? Or have suggestions were we may do so? We
were using a private wiki for a bit but its reliability was limited.
Thanks
--
James Heilman
MD, CCFP-EM, B.Sc.
Funny, we said that Monobook was too old and someone says that this gave
us an advantage over Facebook et al.:
«Compare that to Wikipedia, which is a non-profit that has had the same
user interface for years, and it’s clear that while innovation is
critical, sometimes consumers prefer evolution to revolution.»
http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/home/permalink/?ndmViewId=news_view…
What about Vector? (Which isn't a "revolution", anyway,is it?)
Nemo
Hoi,
In the last week we had new functionality go live in OmegaWiki that point
you to Wikipedia articles and to the Commons category. We prefer to point
you to an article in your language. A good example can be found in todays
word of the day: astronomia horloĝo.
<http://www.omegawiki.org/Expression:astronomia_horlo%C4%9Do>
We aim to give you a link to your language, but when we do not have it,
English is what we fall back to and whatever is available is next. In the
link we state that it is a "Wikipedia article" or a "Commons category". We
need your help for the translation of these expressions.
I am quite pleased that thanks to the great work of Kipcool the argument for
OmegaWiki as a WMF project started by Milos is that much stronger.
Thanks,
GerardM
http://www.omegawiki.org/Expression:Wikipedia_articlehttp://www.omegawiki.org/Expression:Commons category
For wiki-style collaboration I usually use either PBWiki (or pbworks,
whatever, it's all the sme company) or sites.google.com
Both allow for FREE, private, multi-user, instant, online collaboration
using a free online smart editing engine. Same as Wikipedia.
And the results of that collaboration on both, are mark-up pages that are
viewable privately if you wish, or publicly if you wish.
Will Johnson
Robert emailed me asking for an opinion, privately or publicly. At the
risk of another cycle ...
I can reiterate my basic argument, as father of a three-year-old and
stepfather of two teenagers.
The Wikimedia communities are sufficiently painstaking in making sure
everything is educational and in context that I'd happily let my
daughter in front of Wikimedia unrestricted. Anything sexual or
horrifying would be informative and in context.
The community works *incredibly hard* to make the contentious stuff
good. Any kid who looks up "fuck" on en:wp will come away considerably
educated, for example!
The last shock I got from en:wp was when I followed a link to
Wikipedia on another site to [[:en:Cock ring]], and was confronted
with a large, shiny, erect penis. With, of course, a cock ring on it.
Not something I'd care to have pop up on the screen at work ... on the
other hand, I have no reason to be going to an article on cock rings
at work. I think the article was entirely reasonable and the use of
the picture was entirely reasonable.
Then there is the issue of important photos of war and so on that are
*absolutely horrifying*. They should be in the encyclopedia, even if
merely describing some of them makes my stomach do flip-flops.
Basically: I think experience shows that the Wikimedia communities
take their responsibility to educate seriously enough that "Wikipedia
is not censored" is sufficient in practice. I have seen no cases that
would lead me to think otherwise.
As noted in the recent Muhammad image discussion, Wikimedia has a firm
bias to more information rather than less. It's right there in the
mission statement. This is why the community is here at all.
If you go against the mission statement, and the expectation with it
that more information is better than less information - even if the
information is horrible and shocking - the community will not accept
it. They will get up and *leave*. As Milos noted, implementing any of
the recommendations on that meta talk page will promptly lead to a
fork. As it should.
Filtering should be left to third parties. The SOS Children Wikipedia
for Schools is an excellent example, and it's quite popular and won't
get a teacher fired. Other than that, I've seen no evidence of actual
demand for a filtered Wikimedia from end users - only from people who
want to filter the projects themselves at the source.
- d.
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Oliver Keyes <scire.facias(a)gmail.com>wrote:
> Perhaps in future (for say, Haifa) it would be an idea if any chapter-based
> scholarships were put on hold until after the Foundation makes its choices?
> That way the systems could mesh, with people who don't quite meet the
> Foundation requirements/do but oh dear, we've already used up all our
> scholarships being forwarded to the chapter for its decision.
>
Just a quick note on scholarships and chapters:
Wikimedia Hungary applied for a government grant to send people to Wikimania
and we have just today received the news that we have won about €850, which
would have covered the costs of about 5 people (originally we asked for
€1160). With this unfortunate timing there were only 4 people from Hungary
(2 and a half of them got funding from the WMF, their employer and the
organisers) so we can't really utilize this grant.
There are some lessons in it for us (we could shoulder some of the costs
anticipating a successful grant application and accepting the risk
associated with not being successful or being less successful than planned
for).
It also helps a little that the Haifa Wikimania will be in August, which
gives us an extra month and a chance to get at least the results – if not
the grant money itself – before the conference.
For a successful grant application and in order to induce more participants
to go it is also helpful if cost and schedule information are available
early on (a budget has to be submitted for the grant, people need to plan
their summer accordingly and a schedule helps convince people that they
should go to Wikimania for the program as well – not only the nice other
people they can meet – and it helps in drafting the grant).
Best regards,
Bence Damokos
> R M Harris
> .. but the time has come, I think, to actively begin a discussion
> within the communities about some of the questions which I've
> encountered, specifically around Commons and images within Commons. ...
> I look forward to the comments of any of you who wish to join the
> discussion.
[Delurking briefly]
Me n'th, endorsing the idea expressed by many others, that
another generic public discussion of these issues will be of dubious
utility. At some point, it's all been said, and as the saying goes,
it's "pounding on a greasy spot on the pavement, where used to lie the
carcass of a dead horse."
The various factions are known. I suppose you have to do this
in order to say you've consulted with the community. But for heaven's
sake, can it at least be done at a level better than yet another rehash?
[Relurking]
--
Seth Finkelstein Consulting Programmer http://sethf.com
Infothought blog - http://sethf.com/infothought/blog/
Interview: http://sethf.com/essays/major/greplaw-interview.php
Den 22. juli. 2010 kl. 01.10 skrev foundation-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org
:
> Hello
>
> I use pbworks, basic plan (free)
> https://plans.pbworks.com/
>
> Indeed, that is not mediawiki, but I find that specific wiki quite
> confortable to work with and the hosting service is good (not lagging
> horribly as other wiki farms are something doing).
>
> I have been testing it for roughly two months and feel happy about it.
> Currently considering going for the for-pay plan to use it for my
> business to communicate with my clients.
>
> The basic plan allow only one space, but this space can be closed.
> So it
> should fit your needs.
>
> Alternatively, you may set up your own mediawiki (I also have one),
> but
> this require
> * hosting service
> * domain name
> * install and updates
>
> To be fair, unless you are a total geek and mediawiki fan, I would
> recommand the no-hassle pbworks solution.
>
> Ant
I have tried this too for a paper written some time ago.
http://ninano.pbworks.com/Wikipedia-and-the-Museum
Its, nice.
Nina
nina.wikipedia(a)gmail.com