Wikimedia-l August 2009

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[Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT
by Jade Harold 11 Aug '09

11 Aug '09

>Trying to press a en.wp policy(especially one as broad and controversial as WP:NOT) on anyone else is foolish and likely to be resisted. Pete, I disagree with you especially in a case that a local project try to omit key concepts such as Consensus Policy. WP:NOT#DEMO and WP:NOTLAW are generally approved by broad members and these items define well the basic behavior of community decision making and treatment of rules of Wikipedia, based on Consensus. I rather feel it foolish to eliminate these stuff if someone in the local already notice the importance.

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[Foundation-l] IRC office hours - Strategic Planning
by Philippe Beaudette 11 Aug '09

11 Aug '09

It's that time again - Strategic Planning IRC office hours! This week's office hours will be: Wednesday from 04:00-05:00 UTC, which is: Tuesday, 9-10pm PDT Wednesday, 12am-1am EDT For more information, go to http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_Office_Hours Hope to see you there! ____________________ Philippe Beaudette Facilitator, Strategic Planning Wikimedia Foundation pbeaudette(a)wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate

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[Foundation-l] Update on struck votes issue on SecurePoll
by Philippe Beaudette 11 Aug '09

11 Aug '09

Earlier today a number of adjustments were made to votes which had been previously struck in the election for Wikimedia Board of Trustees. We believe the votes that are still struck are validly struck; if there is a dispute, any user is encouraged to contact the Election Committee (board-elections(a)lists.wikimedia.org) or any member personally for clarification. The current list of votes can be found at https://wikimedia.spi-inc.org/index.php/Special:SecurePoll/list/17 For the committee, Philippe

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[Foundation-l] Board election spamming
by Thomas Dalton 10 Aug '09

10 Aug '09

I have just received an email telling me I am eligible to vote in the board elections when I have already voted. Please don't send untargetted mass emails - they are spam.

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[Foundation-l] Five pillars and 'WP:Consensus' in WP:NOT
by wp99 ----- 10 Aug '09

10 Aug '09

Hi, The last time, I asked a question how to share WP:NOT idea among WP local projects. I really appreciate lots of informative feed backs. According to your replies, I confirmed that basically, officially, only requirement is that they follow the founding principles http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Founding_principles. 1. Neutral point of view as a guiding editorial principle, 2. The ability of anyone to edit (most) articles without registration, 3. The "wiki process" and discussion with other editors as the final decision-making mechanism for all content. 4. Free licensing of content; in practice defined by each project as public domain, GFDL, CC-BY-SA or CC-BY. 5. Maintaining room for fiat to help resolve particularly difficult problems. By convention, Jimbo Wales and later Arbitration Committees retain certain authority on the English Wikipedia (and other wikis set up similar frameworks) — to make binding, final decisions such as banning an editor. At the same time, I see (in english WP) Wikipedia:Five pillars http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Five_pillars As you see, this looks very fundamental 'pillars' to define what wikipedia is... Wikipedia is an encyclopedia Wikipedia has a neutral point of view Wikipedia is free content Wikipedia has a code of conduct Wikipedia does not have firm rules Clearly, NPV and free-content(free licensing of content) are shared between the founding principles and the WP-5-five-pillars. The first one is - an encyclopedia, which is an obvious definition of the wikipedia project. So, what I would like to watch closely here are the last 2 pillars, Wikipedia has a code of conduct Wikipedia does not have firm rules To me, Wikipedia:Consensus that is a part of Wikipedia has a code of conduct tightly connects to Wikipedia does not have firm rules = Wikipedia:Ignore all rules, WP:NOTLAW, WP:NOTDEMOCRACY. and basically mentions the same concept, it looks like. So, my questions are as follows. 1. While Wikipedia:Five pillars includes Founding_principles and the definition of WP(Wikipedia is an encyclopedia), is this still english local WP pillars? or What do you think if we share the WP pillars among WP local projects? What do you think if a local WP project refuses to share the WP pillars? 2. What do you think 'IF' a local project like ja-wp ,as a result, determines discard the essence of the concept -WP:Consensus and prefer treat WP:rules as a Law? That's it, thanks. Regards, --wp99

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[Foundation-l] Ombudsman commission
by Peter Jacobi 10 Aug '09

10 Aug '09

On dewiki there is a discussion whether the Ombudsman commission does fulfill its mission. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Diskussion:Checkuser/Anfragen#Ombuds… Some months ago there was a checkuser action which was questioned by some users and the Ombudsman commission was asked to investigate the case. The only dewiki member of the Ombudsman commission did recuse himself from the case. The other members can't be reached or don't comment. Regards, Peter [[User:Pjacobi]]

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[Foundation-l] Fwd: Translatewiki newsletter - A new translation rally has begun
by Gerard Meijssen 10 Aug '09

10 Aug '09

Hoi, Siebrand send this e-mail to the contributors to translatewiki.net. As localisation is an integral part to our success, I forward this to you. Those who already contribute to our localisation I thank and those who are capable of supporting MediaWiki by helping in the localisation effort I urge to lend a hand. In the end this is a rally intended to help us provide a better service to our readers and editors. Thanks, GerardM ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Translatewiki.net staff <translatewiki(a)xs4all.nl> Date: 2009/8/9 Subject: Translatewiki newsletter - A new translation rally has begun To: gerard.meijssen Hello, dear translatewiki.net user. This is our e-mail newsletter for August 2009. It intends to keep you updated on translatewiki.net's developments, and is also aimed at reminding you to visit http://translatewiki.net at least once every month to update the language(s) you have been contributing to in the past, so that the localisations will stay up to date. Because our shortage of staff time, it has been 6 months since we have sent out our last newsletter. We hope to make it worth your while :) Translation Rally: Contribute 500 MediaWiki translations and share in 1,000 Euro! In the last week of 2008 we had our first translation rally<http://wiki/Translating:Language_project/500claim>. All translators that would contribute more than 500 translations to MediaWiki would share the 1,000 Euro bounty. To our astonishment 35 users managed to reach this milestone. Sponsored by Stichting Open Progress <http://openprogress.org>, with a grant from Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland <http://nl.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mainpage>'s "International Projects" fund, we are able to have another translation rally<http://wiki/Project:Rally-2009-08>with about the same conditions. The Translation Rally has already started and will run until 18 August 2009 24:00 UTC. See the project page for details. Other News Niklas Laxström <http://wiki/User:Nike> (aka Nikerabbit), founder of translatewiki.net, has entered into the Google Summer of Code 2009<http://code.google.com/soc/>program and has already been making many improvements <http://wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code/2009/schedule> to the MediaWiki Translate extension. We are very much looking forward to no longer having to open new tabs to edit messages, for example. Translatewiki.net staff remains being most committed to the site's translators. We welcome feedback about this newsletter. Please let us know by sending a reply to this mail. We will try to accommodate your wishes. Siebrand Mazeland Translatewiki.net staff ------------------------------ You are one of over 1,500 people receiving this e-mail because you have registered with http://translatewiki.net, the wiki localisation platform for translation communities, language communities, and open source projects. This newsletter will be sent at most once every month. You can opt-out by visiting translatewiki.net, logging in, and checking the box 'Do not send me e-mail newsletters' at the bottom of the tab 'User Profile' in your preferences - although we hope you will not. If you have multiple accounts with the same e-mail address, you have to opt-out for all of them.

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Re: [Foundation-l] Board election spamming
by pbeaudette＠wikimedia.org 09 Aug '09

09 Aug '09

Thomas, I'm sorry you got an email that bothered you. Trust me, we try to make sure no one is bothered by them. Sometimes people fall through the cracks, and I'm sorry that was the case here and in a few other cases. We try - hard - to make sure that everyone who is entitled to vote knows it. Hours of translator and committee time went into that email. This morning, folks from the translation team worked hard to make the email as close as possible to perfect. Werdna created and managed the scripts and other vols have worked hard to manage the (multi lingual) responses. My point here is that we take suffrage very seriously and in our effort to make sure that EVERY qualified voter knew it, we didn't get it perfectly. If that's the trade off for getting increased turnout in this critical election, I hope you can understand. I will sleep well tonight, knowing that we erred on the side of hitting TOO MANY voters, instead of not enough. For myself only, but quite sure others share my feelings, Philippe ------Original Message------ From: Thomas Dalton Sender: foundation-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List ReplyTo: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Subject: [Foundation-l] Board election spamming Sent: Aug 7, 2009 10:40 PM I have just received an email telling me I am eligible to vote in the board elections when I have already voted. Please don't send untargetted mass emails - they are spam. _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

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Re: [Foundation-l] Upcoming tech hiring: CTO position split
by pbeaudette＠wikimedia.org 09 Aug '09

09 Aug '09

My favorite is "Chief Handshaker". :) ------Original Message------ From: Brian Sender: foundation-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List ReplyTo: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Upcoming tech hiring: CTO position split Sent: Aug 8, 2009 8:57 PM On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Brion Vibber <brion(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: > On 8/7/09 2:35 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > > By containing the magic words "senior" and "architect" the proposed > > "Senior Software Architect" is, in my experience, not inconsistent > > with industry naming practice for the most important tech guru who > > isn't primarily a manager. > > > > It's not a bad title in any case. > > > > (I was previously a manager and made a decision to hire a boss because > > I realized I'd rather be doing technical work than performance > > reviews. These days I'm just a lowly 'Senior … Engineer', and I'm > > quite happy with that, thank you very much) > > Exactly. > > Now, if we really think of a_totally badass title_ before we get the > business cards printed up I'm open to changing it, but honestly I like > it and it fits the role I see for myself just fine. :) My favorite title of all time, and I think the undisputed winner of the most badass title of all time, is Chief Internet Evangelist. You could be the Chief MediaWiki Evangelist, although architect does have a nice ring to it for the time being. Perhaps later on in your career you'll take on the role of Chief Wiki Evangelist. _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

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[Foundation-l] Voluntary self-regulation of multimedia service providers
by private musings 08 Aug '09

08 Aug '09

Hi all, Just wondering what folk think about the WMF heading towards compliance with things like this; http://www.gsmeurope.org/documents/eu_codes/fsm_code_en.pdf This is a german code of conduct - but there are many more (I've also spoken with these chaps =- http://www.iia.net.au/ - and I got the feeling that they'd very much like to engage with both communities, and the foundation as the 'service provider') My interest stems from discussing sexual content on wikimedia foundation projects, but obviously engagement with such external bodies / codes of practice etc. is far from limited to that sphere, best, Peter, PM.

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