Wikimedia-l July 2008

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[Foundation-l] Kaltura and Wikimania collaborative video editing
by Jay Walsh 08 Jul '08

08 Jul '08

Hey all, Kaltura - who are kind benefactors of Wikimania this year, wanted to pass on the following invite to those who are participating in Wikimania - or those who may not be able to. They've got two lonely videos on there right now. Consider uploading your travel videos for some open-source collaboration/editing. Add as many other videos as you can come across while you're in Alexandria. If you can't make it, why not edit a video or add some reflections or views of your own? (PS, freshly blogged at http://blog.wikimedia.org/2008/07/08/kaltura-and-wikimania-08-collaborative…) Thanks! Jay Walsh, Head of Communications Here's the invitation from Lisa Bennet, Director of Public Relations and Marketing, Kaltura — Hi Everyone, As Wikimania is right around the corner, we’ve added a new great way to share information about the event. I would like to invite you to the Wikimania Video Site where you can create collaborative videos. The site already has some videos where people can add their expectations for the event or share why they can’t join us this year, and there will be computer stations at Wikimania for attendees to add videos and pictures in real-time from Alexandria. Hopefully, it will be a great resource for people that could not be there in person to see the highlights, and for the attendees to document the event. Check it out at: http://www.kaltura.com/devwiki/index.php/Wikimania_Video_Site The site is hosted on the Kaltura devwiki and uses the collaborative video technology from Kaltura, which the Foundation partnered with late last year to explore adding videos to Wikipedia and other projects. You’re invited to share your experiences from Wikimania, play with the technology, and provide your feedback.

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[Foundation-l] Tragical dynamics: that run for the number of articles
by Ziko van Dijk 07 Jul '08

07 Jul '08

Maybe this is not the most popular item, but I do like to comment on the news about Japanese and Polish Wikipedias and their 500,000 articles each. In fact, jp.WP actually has 500,000, but pl.WP does not. In an attempt to compare Wikipedia language editions I have clicked the button "random articles" and with a sample of 50 clicks each I have calculated how many articles a language edition really has, minus all those pseudo articles. A pseudo article is e.g. http://pdc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bikini http://co.wikipedia.org/wiki/191 http://ksh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varsseveld http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tandil http://vo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poplar_Bluff Many Wikipedias loose, in my calculation, quite a huge percentage of their articles. There is one honourable exception: Japanese Wikipedia, which in 50 clicks showed absolutely no pseudo article. If Japanese Wikipedia would have such a floppy policy about new articles as many others have, jp.WP were already close to one million "articles". Pl.WP has for about 300,000 real articles, very respectable, but not what it seems to be. Since the beginnings, Wikipedians report about the number of articles, having to tell something about to the media and to be proud about their achievements. They rank Wikipedia language editions by the number of articles. This has caused tragical dynamics: many Wikipedians and Wikipedias are so obsessed with this number that they produce rubbish articles to show off. Volapük Wikipedia with more than 100,000 pseudo articles created by a single bot using user is only the top of the iceberg, and when someone called to close vo.WP, vo.WP was supported by a amazing number of users from many language editions: cosi fan tutte. Wikipedians could and should use their time for more useful article work. It would be good if the community found a different way to compare or to measure it's successes. Ziko -- Ziko van Dijk NL-Silvolde

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Re: [Foundation-l] Top posters
by Geoffrey Plourde 06 Jul '08

06 Jul '08

Why are we posting this? Is this supposed to be a badge of honor? Or are we trying to shame top posters? ----- Original Message ---- From: Dan Rosenthal <swatjester(a)gmail.com> To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2008 9:08:46 PM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Top posters You missed Ray's total for this month. Interesting stats and cool link, I thought I posted more than I do. -Dan On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Nathan <nawrich(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Name > Lifetime > > > > June Ray Saintonge< > http://www.infodisiac.com/Wikipedia/ScanMail/Ray_Saintonge.html> > 1952 > > > > 58 Dan Rosenthal< > http://www.infodisiac.com/Wikipedia/ScanMail/Dan_Rosenthal.html> > 342 > > > > 46 Milos Rancic< > http://www.infodisiac.com/Wikipedia/ScanMail/Milos_Rancic.html> > 363 > > > > 36 Anthony <http://www.infodisiac.com/Wikipedia/ScanMail/Anthony.html> > 1292 > > > > 35 GerardM <http://www.infodisiac.com/Wikipedia/ScanMail/GerardM.html> > 1588 > > > > 35 Thomas Dalton< > http://www.infodisiac.com/Wikipedia/ScanMail/Thomas_Dalton.html> > 834 > > > > 32 Jesse Plamondon-Willard > 57 > > > > 29 Gregory Maxwell< > http://www.infodisiac.com/Wikipedia/ScanMail/Gregory_Maxwell.html> > 721 > > > > 26 Mark Williamson< > http://www.infodisiac.com/Wikipedia/ScanMail/Mark_Williamson.html> > 316 > > > > 26 Anthere <http://www.infodisiac.com/Wikipedia/ScanMail/Anthere.html> > 2677 > > > > 21 John Vandenberg > 24 > > > > 20 Nathan <http://www.infodisiac.com/Wikipedia/ScanMail/Nathan.html> > 200 > > > > 20 effe iets anders< > http://www.infodisiac.com/Wikipedia/ScanMail/effe_iets_anders.html> > 381 > > > > 19 Jon > 38 > > > > 18 geni <http://www.infodisiac.com/Wikipedia/ScanMail/geni.html> > 876 > > > > 17 Andrew Gray< > http://www.infodisiac.com/Wikipedia/ScanMail/Andrew_Gray.html> > 340 > > > > 16 George Herbert< > http://www.infodisiac.com/Wikipedia/ScanMail/George_Herbert.html> > 222 > > > > 16 Brian McNeil< > http://www.infodisiac.com/Wikipedia/ScanMail/Brian_McNeil.html> > 314 > > > > 15 Casey Brown< > http://www.infodisiac.com/Wikipedia/ScanMail/Casey_Brown.html> > 255 > > > > 15 David Gerard< > http://www.infodisiac.com/Wikipedia/ScanMail/David_Gerard.html> > 1457 > > > > 15 Kwan Ting Chan > 48 > > > > 14 Ryan > 29 > > > > 13 Ziko van Dijk > 53 > > > > 13 Durova > 46 > > > > 12 > Hopefully this formats correctly. Of 109 posters in June, here are the top > 25. I included the lifetime totals this time 'round. > > Nathan > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > -- Dan Rosenthal _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

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[Foundation-l] [Wikitech-l] Implementing the Babel extension
by mike.lifeguard 05 Jul '08

05 Jul '08

Something similar happened at Wikibooks. We want a way to count the number of books we have (as opposed to pages), and to list them. So Ramac and Pietrodn wrote http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AllBooks, which solves that problem quite well. The solution was rejected because it solves the wrong problem. The real problem is that the software has no way of knowing what a book is - that is, there is no thing in the database identifying books. That is the real problem, and once we solve it, we can implement many other solutions to problems which stem from that (some thoughts at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Mike.lifeguard/Wish_list). As disappointing as that is for the Wikibooks community (and especially the developers), it was the right choice. We should not implement an extension just because it was written - that is what has been proposed. Rejecting this solution is the correct course in this case because here too the wrong problem is solved. Mike

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[Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation 2008-2009 Annual Plan
by Jay Walsh 05 Jul '08

05 Jul '08

Hello everyone - this note is cross-posted on the Wikimedia blog at: http://blog.wikimedia.org/2008/07/01/wikimedia-foundation-2008-2009-annual-… Earlier today we uploaded the Wikimedia Foundation’s 2008/2009 Annual Plan presentation and Questions and Answers page to the Wikimedia Wiki. These materials were approved at the June 20 Board of Trustees meeting. They can be accessed via the Finance Report page: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Finance_report Posting our plan and (hopefully) answering some of your questions in advance is part of our commitment to providing transparent information about the Foundation’s goals and spending. The Annual Plan lays out projected spending through the next fiscal year (which for us starts today and runs the rest of the year). The plan describes spending in our three main operational areas: technology, programming, and financeand administration. We also introduce our 2008/2009 organizational goals, which we hope to discuss in more detail in the coming months. For your information and awareness! -- Jay Walsh Head of Communications WikimediaFoundation.org +1 (415) 839 6885 x 609

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[Foundation-l] Chinese Wikipedia unblocked in Mainland China
by Ian A. Holton 04 Jul '08

04 Jul '08

Hey all, fantastic news for now: The Chinese version of Wikipedia has been UNblocked in mainland China once again - hopefully longer this time (I dare say permanently). See: http://www.danwei.org/net_nanny_follies/wikipedia_chinese_version_unbl.php Ian (User:Poeloq)

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[Foundation-l] Top posters
by Robert Rohde 04 Jul '08

04 Jul '08

On Jan 8, 2008 6:19 AM, Brian McNeil <brian.mcneil(a)wikinewsie.org> wrote: > <snip> > Forgive me if some of this is retreading old ground, but I've over 50 > messages for this list since yesterday. Can we have a rerun (or a January > run) of the top poster stats? I was 2nd last time and felt embarrassed > despite having thought most of what I wrote was close to the topic in > question. > > Posts in December to Foundation-l 1 Thomas Dalton - 123 2 Anthony - 70 3 Andrew Whitworth - 64 4 David Gerard - 48 5 Florence Devouard - 47 6 Brian McNeil - 43 7 Nathan Awrich - 36 8 Ray Saintonge - 33 T9 GerardM - 32 T9 Mike Godwin - 32 T9 Erik Moeller - 32 -Robert Rohde

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[Foundation-l] Announcement: Erik Zachte, Data Analyst
by Brion Vibber 04 Jul '08

04 Jul '08

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 It is with great pleasure that I welcome Erik Zachte as a part-time contractor to the Wikimedia Foundation. Erik will start work with us officially on September 1. Erik has worked as a Technical Analyst for Air France - KLM for more than two decades. He is probably most famous in the Wikimedia community as the developer of "WikiStats" (stats.wikimedia.org), an amazing statistics package that reveals data about the growth and editing patterns in our various wiki projects. Erik has created many other wonderful tools, featured at http://infodisiac.com/ . In his part-time role with the Wikimedia Foundation, he will continue to maintain and develop code to provide critical operational metrics about our projects. A key first project, for example, will be the integration of traffic statistics into the WikiStats package. These metrics will be key to communications, fundraising, internal evaluation, and for many other purposes. We're working in parallel to provide Erik with the support he needs to do his work, including more regularly provisioned dumps and hardware to run his scripts. I'm very pleased that Erik is joining our team, and look forward to working with him. Please join me in welcoming him. :) - -- brion vibber (brion @ wikimedia.org) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkhsGukACgkQwRnhpk1wk466xACfcX+G/DjEHk8KO3RP9TMHsMpI n3MAn2aECpBhmf+iRqDTaEdEKlw6FJYk =O/we -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[Foundation-l] Announcement: Erik Zachte, Data Analyst
by Erik Zachte 04 Jul '08

04 Jul '08

Thank you all for your nice words! > I am very much looking forward to serve the community and the > foundation further in this new position. > Later this month (when back from holiday) I will publish a list of > ideas for improving and extending wikistats, so that everyone can > comment on it. Topics on the list range from technical improvements > for current scripts (foremost to improve performance) to rough ideas > on whole new areas of analysis. As Brion already indicated, > incorporating and extending Domas' work on visitor statistics will > initially be my primary focus. > Erik Zachte

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[Foundation-l] Implementing the Babel extension
by Gerard Meijssen 03 Jul '08

03 Jul '08

Hoi. The Babel templates are widely used on the Wikimedia Foundation's wikis. Implementing them is a lot of work; you need more then 1000 templates just to cover the languages that the Wikimedia Foundation supports in its projects. Several Wikis have templates to support additional languages. For the bigger projects this is no longer an issue as the templates have already been created, but for many of the smaller projects getting the Babel information implemented is a lot of work. It would be great if the time could be saved to do something that is really useful like writing articles. At Betawiki we have been working hard to create a Babel extension. The great news of an extension is, that there is no need to do anything but implement the extension. We currently think that the software is at a state where we would like to invite the last comments leading to the implementation on all the WMF wikis. Thanks, Gerard

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