Based on our amateur legal analysis at [[Commons:Deletion requests/Library
and Archives Canada non-PD images]], there is a potentially large class of
images which are PD in Canada, but not the US: those works whose copyright
was initially held by corporations (or the Crown), which expire 50 years
after publication, but only after 95 years in the US due to the URAA.
In the past, there had been an idea that the Canadian chapter, once it was
formed, could host a collection of such materials for the intervening 45
years, to provide these PD materials to Canadian re-users, and to allow for
efficient transferring to Wikimedia Commons once the PD date comes. When I
floated this idea on the WMC list, someone suggested that the Foundation
would be actually be interested in doing this itself.
Thus, I have a few questions:
1. Will the Foundation ever be interested in hosting works which are non-PD
in the US, but are PD elsewhere?
2. Have any national chapters thought of doing this for their own country's
3. If Wikimedia Canada can't make this a priority right now (we are pretty
busy with incorporation, etc), would anyone out there (presumably Commons
users) be interested in contributing to a non-WMF, completely unofficial
wiki of Canadian PD works? Or should I just stick to working by myself and
hosting any of these I find on my Flickr account?
4. Alternately, would anyone object to my starting of such a private wiki on
the grounds that it would be better to wait for this to become an official
WMC or WMF project?
Thanks for any input.
Next week we will have a first international wiki and less resourced
languages meet-up in Cherasco, Piedmont, Italy. The languages for this
meet-up are English as mayor communication platform eventually French
and Wolof (for the Senegalese community) and Piedmontese. There will be
some short inserts of other less resourced languages in terms of videos
and/or recordings as well.
Yesterday there was a meeting in Piedmontese language only. Recordings
will be available online soon. Unfortunately the network connections did
not allow for live transmission.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherasco (is the place where we will be
The event is backed by the local authorities and the Region of Piedmont
as well as by the association GoPiedmont. Programming of the event
started quite late so all what was possible was done, and it was not
possible to consider many additional possibilities for this year (also
in terms of funding ... there's always that 24 hours/day thingie ... :-)
Therefore we had no additional funding to the technical facilities. This
time scolarships were not possible - we hope to be able to get things
like these in future, but we cannot promise :-)
Link to the programme:
Some of the videos are already online:
For now we have a loop of approx. 90 mins.
Transcripts will be uploaded step by step here:
(also in this case licenses need to be still established)
Some changes are still possible, but we have more contents than shown
here, so: no probs for that part.
As to the videos: most of them are already here, few are missing, I have
also additional contents. If you are part of a less resourced or
minority language group and would like to talk about your language and
projects in your language, you are welcome to submit your video to show
people - we cannot grant it to be online for the day of the conference,
but we can insert it in the cycle as soon as possible. Please also
consider using a free license for your video. We will see which ones of
ours can be released under free license (we could not care about that
part by now, but this is not essential for the conference itself and can
be handled after it).
All videos shown during the conference are going to be dubbed in
At this stage I would like to publicly thank all, Wikimedians and non,
who helped us to organise the event and get things on their way. Approx.
4 month is not really much time.
Yes, we are already thinking about the next event for 2009 (also 2010 is
being considered) and whoever is interested is welcome to join us.
Really next year should have been the first year to do this ... but
well: we got the challenge to do it now and so we did.
Please feel free to distribute this information as you wish. It was not
possible to go around all village pumps on our wikis which deal with a
less resourced language (I tried to do at least some).
Should you have any questions, please ask - they will be answered on the
website of GoPiedmont so that questions and answers are available to a
broader public. We cannot make sure we answer immediately being only in
two to do this. Please send a copy of your question to
info(a)voxhumanitatis.org from where it reaches our private mail boxes and
not the lists which we cannot really follow these days.
Thank you and have a wonderful week!
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Brion Vibber <brion(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Hey, just to give y'all a heads-up... after a couple months of good
> testing w/ the sysops & power users, we're going to widen the
> CentralAuth rollout to allow everybody on Wikimedia sites to opt-in to
> the system.
> We're going to keep automatic migration off for now to keep the volume
> down, as we may want to roll out more helper tools in response to new
> issues people might have.
> -- brion vibber (brion @ wikimedia.org)
> Wikitech-l mailing list
Forwarding to foundation-l, thought the wider community might
like a heads up this is coming next week.
On 4/15/08, Erik Moeller <erik(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
> On 4/15/08, Birgitte SB <birgitte_sb(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > The main, really helpful thing WMF could do would be
>> > to give deadline on this. (i.e. The moratorium will
>> > not last longer than X months reagardless of the
>> > status of negotiations.
> If we don't have the FDL 1.3 by April 30, we'll definitely try to find
> a better solution ASAP.
> -- Erik Möller
> The WMF expressing legal concerns about the stories is effectively
> identical to the WMF removing the stories. The WMF wants the stories
> gone, the stories go - that's the short of it.
That is hardly the case. It's always possible for editors to refuse to
follow our advice. If there's a way to compel volunteer editors to
do anything, I haven't come across it.
> If the general counsel
> of the WMF tells you there are legal concerns regarding one of your
> articles, you delete the article, you don't have any say in the
> matter, regardless of whether or not the WMF actually demands
If you are under the impression that I told someone they had no choice
but to accede to my recommendations, then you are mistaken. I took the
trouble of explaining at some length what our legal concerns were.
These concerns included legal protection of Wikinews and its
> That said, the WMF removing stories because of legal concerns has
> always been accepted (albeit reluctantly) by the community as
> something the WMF has to do. The WMF has a responsibility to obey the
> law, whether we like it or not. There is a big difference between
> removing the articles due to legal concerns and, as Wikileaks seems to
> claim, censoring articles critical of Wikipedia. As long as it was
> just the former (and I have no evidence to suggest otherwise), I have
> no problem with it.
That's good to hear. But in this instance the WMF did not remove
The board of the Wikimedia Foundation approved eight new projects.
- Portuguese Wikiversity
- Limburgish Wikisource
- Sranan Tongo Wikipedia
- Silesian Wikipedia
- Moksha Wikipedia
- Karakalpak Wikipedia
- Fiji Hindi Wikipedia
- Czech Wikinews
We welcome the new projects and we urge one of the developers ANY of the
developers to create the projects and include them with a dual license
CC-by-sa / GFDL. The Wikinews project needs the CC-by license. DO NOT COPY
ANY DATA IN. Leave that for the new communities to deal with. This will side
step the dual licensing abomination.
When you are at it PLEASE do the same for:
- Extramaduran Wikipedia (78 days)
- Gan Wikipedia (78 days)
- Erzya Wikipedia (94 days)
- Hungarian Wikinews (112 days)
There is NO reason why the Hungarian Wikinews has had to wait for so long.
It is with some mingled emotions that I welcome the new projects. I am happy
for the effort that people put into new projects, it is with fear that these
projects will suffer from a lack of involvement that prevents new projects
from being created and it is with increased frustration and anger that
people like the Hungarians have to wait. Please make not only me happy, and
help us celebrate the start of these new projects and make them a reality.
What would it take to get you guys to come?
----- Original Message ----
From: Harel Cain <harel.cain(a)gmail.com>
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 10:32:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] FYI: Welcome to this years Wikimania site: Egypt, the land with cultur ministers with special taste in history, culture and all the good things
Let's put things straight. The Arabs in Israel usually read in Arabic.
Whatever translations of Arabic (specifically Egyptian) literature
into Hebrew there are, are mainly for the benefit of the Israeli
Jewish reader. These books are normally translated by Israeli
publishers on their own initiative, out of commercial reasons.
But all this is beyond the point. The quote attributed to the Egyptian
minister is not a one-of-a-kind occurrence. There are some groups in
Egypt vehemently opposed to the peace treaty with Israel (from 1979!).
Surprisingly, some professional organizations such as the writers
guild are among the most radical in this regard.
It is a sad fact of life that Israel has a "cold peace" with Egypt.
Few people travel back and forth. The current formal recommendation of
the Israeli Anti-Terror council is for all Israeli nationals to "avoid
all visits to Egypt, and if they are already there, to leave Egypt
immediately", because of "a very high concrete threat"
We (over at Wikimedia Israel) had some optimistic plans to come to
Alexandria in big numbers (after all, it's a neighboring country).
Sadly, I don't see that happening.
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter <putevod(a)mccme.ru> wrote:
>> Also, he talks about restoring historic synagogues and the Cairo
>> Geniza. I think they're also something about translating Egyptian
>> books into Hebrew for the benefit of Arabs in Israel, but the
>> translation isn't very good at that point.
> I thought Naghib Mahfouz's books have actually been translated into
> Hebrew; if they have not been, they should.
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Jimmy Wales was one of several speakers at the conference "How free is
the internet?" at Nobels Peacecenter in Oslo, Norway. Main sponsor for
the conference was Teknologirådet. He had a lecture "Can Wikipedia
promote freedom of expression?". Other speakers was professor Jonathan
Zittrain from the Oxford University with the lecture "Access denied: The
practice and policy of global internet filtering", Zena el Khalil a
blogger from Beirut talking about blogging during the siege of Lebanon
in 2006, professor Jon Bing from the University of Oslo with the
lecture "Where should we draw the line?", and several others.
Some overall information can be found at the page where the actual
download links resides. The downloads are from Telenor, one of the
sponsors of the conference.
http://www.telenor.com/downloads/nobels_fredssenter/ (English, download)
John Erling Blad