Wikimedia-l October 2007

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[Foundation-l] Moneybookers not working
by Magnus Manske 24 Oct '07

24 Oct '07

I get " TRANSACTION NOT ALLOWED Wrong merchant email address!" when clicking on the Moneybookers button on http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Fundraising Note that this happens when JavaScript is enabled. Without JS, I get a form, but no "submit" button. Magnus

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[Foundation-l] Fundraising banner ad
by Matthew Britton 23 Oct '07

23 Oct '07

Hi, Thanks for waking me up this morning with a honking great flashy scrolling monstrosity at the top of every page. The marquee tag was a nice flashback to 1997. And how much opportunity for feedback were users given on this? Not an awful lot. The SVN commit logs show that the marquee thingy was committed just minutes before appearing project-wide, for example. I still almost managed to file a bugzilla request before it showed up. Now, the way I see things, the Wikimedia Foundation has two options: (1) Actually ask for feedback from the community before making such dramatically visible, or at least allow more than a few minutes for feedback to present itself. (2) Make an official announcement that the opinion of the community does not matter, rather than pretending that it does. The choice is yours. (1) would of course be preferable, but (2) would make an excellent argument for a fork, so feel free to go ahead and do it. -Gurch

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[Foundation-l] AskWiki Alpha Project
by AskWiki Team 23 Oct '07

23 Oct '07

AskMeNow is now commencing the planned alpha test of the AskWiki search site of Wikipedia content under their agreement with the Wikimedia Foundation. AskWiki is a preliminary integration of a semantic search engine that seeks to provide specific answers to questions using information from Wikipedia articles. Whatever the question - Why is the Sky Blue? What is quantum physics? - just ask and get the answer. The site is still in early stage development and has been designed to foster community involvement to help improve the search service and interface over the development period. Like Wikipedia, AskWiki is built on MediaWiki and gives individual contributors the ability to improve search results by editing and updating answer articles. This makes it a great complementary tool for Wikipedia and will continue to reside on an off-site portal. If the test period is successful, we will develop AskWiki into a mobile search tool that will allow users to access Wikipedia through an easy mobile service. However, since the project is still an in-development test, we are asking the Wikimedia Community to try it out and help us improve it. Please visit www.askwiki.com, and help us make search results smarter. Thanks, The AskWiki Team

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[Foundation-l] Difference between the two reporting engines?
by Ben P. 23 Oct '07

23 Oct '07

Forgive my ignorance... I can find two separate CORE sites: http://fundraising.wikimedia.org/en/fundcore/list http://donate.wikimedia.org/en/fundcore_browse These would seem to report the same contributions, yet they do not. What's the difference? Thanks, Ben

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[Foundation-l] Fundraising translations
by Florence Devouard 23 Oct '07

23 Oct '07

Subtitle of the message subject: HELP We need help for translation of the major pages related to fundraising. You can help. Here is the page where translation needed are listed * http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2007#Pages_to_be_translated Please help translate the pages mentionned in bold. This is urgent. Also, please distribute this message around in your projects, in the various languages, and on the pumps. Thanks Ant

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[Foundation-l] Implications of IMSLP case
by Klaus Graf 23 Oct '07

23 Oct '07

Franz Liszt writes in his Myspace weblog: "A great blow has been dealt against the world of music and of our common cultural heritage. The International Music Score Library Project (IMSLP) was a wonderful site for sharing public domain music scores. They had an encyclopaedic collection of scores which anyone could download as a .pdf file. The site was entirely free and run by people dedicated to the art of music. Unfortunately the music publishers Universal Edition has threatened the site's creator with legal action if he does not "cease and desist" the site's activities. This has now happened. UE's threats appear to be based on rather spurious copyright grounds. The intention is not to protect artists' rights, but to stop people from accessing public domain materials. Most artists have struggled terribly in life and die broke and young. Having ignored the artists during their lifetimes, publishers are then able to exploit their genius posthumously. Take poor old Franz Schubert, for instance. UE's legal threat is a direct attack on our common musical heritage as well as on culture in general. I believe that these public domain works should be freely available to the public. For the most part, IMSLP made available sores by all the greats (including my humble self), most of whom have been long dead and are out of copyright. There is a current trend for all our common cultural heritage to be "privatized" and exploited by private corporations for the sole purpose of making money. The idea that the works of Shakespeare, Beethoven and Leonardo da Vinci (et al) should "belong" to anyone except the people of this planet (and beyond) is outrageous. Sadly, this trend is not restricted only to great works of art. Ancient buildings, national parks, libraries, museums, images of works art, and many aspects of our cultural heritage are all being devoured by private corporations in order to fuel the interests of a small minority of greedy individuals. Be that as it may, I do urge you to go to the IMSLP forum, register. learn the facts and offer support (if only by adding your voice). This is important because this is about freedom, our common cutural heritage - and about music! [...] The address is http://imslpforums.org " Source: http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=113684180&b… The cease and desist letter mentions EU-protected composers but also composers like Gustav Mahler who is dead since 1911. There are two questions: First: Can WMF help to re-activate IMSLP by hosting e.g. Wikiscore (or so)? It is already possible to uload PD scores on Wikimedia Commons. See http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Sheet_music Second: Are there implications for WMF copyright policies? The CaD-letter mentions the fact that "that under Canadian law a judgement rendered in Europe is enforceable in Canada". If a Canadian user uploads works on Commons from an US server like Internet Archive (pre-1923-rule) which are PD in Canada (50 y pma) then this is allowed by the (inappropriate) rule of Commons. I have to quote the rule: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing#Interaction_of_United_S… "If material that has been saved from a third-party website is uploaded to Commons, the copyright laws of the US, the country of residence of the uploader, and the country of location of the webservers of the website apply." It clearly lacks the COUNTRY OF ORIGIN in this (inappropriate) rule. If this country is a EU country the 70 year pma rule is in effect. Take a Bela Bartok score published before 1923 (or 1909). Bartok died in 1945, his works are protected in all EU countries until December 31, 2015. The score is PD in the US and Canada but the Canadian uploader can be sued by a Canadian lawyer because the work is not free in Europe. WMF cannot be sued for an US court in this case because the work is PD in the US. But should'nt we protect the uploader when he is uploading according our rules? Klaus Graf

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[Foundation-l] FY07-08 budget overview
by Anthony 23 Oct '07

23 Oct '07

On 10/23/07, Erik Moeller <erik(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: > You can see the FY07-08 budget overview here: > http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Planned_Spending_Distribution_2007-2008 > Wow, half a million dollars a year for the office of the executive director. Ick.

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[Foundation-l] Myself
by Nikola Smolenski 23 Oct '07

23 Oct '07

I'd just like to say that, after long and apparently unsuccessful resistance, I joined this list.

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[Foundation-l] Message to communication/fundraising team about scrolling marquee in the donation message
by Brian 23 Oct '07

23 Oct '07

I believe you are going to find that the scrolling marquee is going to reduce donations. I understand the good intentions behind it, however, if you are a native speaker of one language, and a banner advertisement is scrolling text at you in another language, the first thing that is going to happen is that you are going to be confused. First impressions are everything - you want that first impression to lead to the action of clicking on the banner, not moving the mouse as far away from it as possible. When's the last time you clicked on a banner ad in a language you don't speak? I also suggest removing those crazy closeups of Jimbo's eyeballs from the video. Creepy!!! Cheers, Brian

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Re: [Foundation-l] Priorities
by Brian McNeil 22 Oct '07

22 Oct '07

I asked Howard for further information. -------------------------------------------------------- If the Chair wants to know what's going on, contact some of the Webcomic "reporters" (columnists who write about webcomics.) The foremost authorities of late are probably Gary Tyrell of Fleen.com, and Xav Xerexes of Comixtalk.com. Gary can be reached at gary(a)fleen.com Xav can be reached at xerexes(a)gmail.com You can also look at my own take on this in blog entries from earlier this year: http://www.schlockmercenary.com/blog/index.php/2007/02/05/webcomics-wikiwatc h/ http://www.schlockmercenary.com/blog/index.php/2007/02/06/wikiwatch-round-ii / http://www.schlockmercenary.com/blog/index.php/2007/02/06/wikiwatch-the-madn ess-continues/ Note that my own mini-crusade on these matters was never about my own article (which I have tweaked on occasion), and barely scratches the surface of the problem. -------------------------------------------------------- I read the first blog entry, he asserts Evil Inc. had its article deleted despite being web & print. Brian.

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